Supersprint 4-2-1

1. Oc2 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Nottm. Posts: 924 Focus ST2 ASBO

   #1 5th August 2010, 23:45

   and the supersprint and kamracing exhaust system
   
   noticable power gains? If so what hp extra we talking?
   
   how well can you feel it when you put your right foot down?
   
   Really noticable?
   
   Thanks
2. JRC1 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Southampton Posts: 4839 16v'd White Furio & MK5 Golf R32

   #2 6th August 2010, 00:10

   Best manifold for the Sax imo, compliments the supersprint middle section and backbox well. Revs alot more freely. Bloody expensive new though so look out for one second hand
3. Oc2 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Nottm. Posts: 924 Focus ST2 ASBO

   #3 6th August 2010, 00:18

   Yeah tis a bit expensive.. £330+ for the mani
   
   how do people rate the raceland mani, or piper mani? bit more of a budget option i know at £150 and £180
4. FunkyDave Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 Preston, Lancashire Posts: 235 2001 Renault Megane 1.9DTi

   #4 6th August 2010, 13:21

   Raceland 4-2-1 is ok on mine, but i'm guessin you want to know bout a vtr not 1.1
5. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #5 7th August 2010, 11:48

   The benefit of the supersprint manifold is it is hand finished after welding. This removes and smooths the internal bore at the head flange and exhaust end to get the best in gas flow. Cheaper versions such as the Raceland do not get this care and so will lack a small amount at the top end when flow is more critical.
   The other advantage is the metal is a lot thicker and the quality of manufacture is greater so it will most likely out live your car
6. Ben_C22 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 carmarthen Posts: 206 transit connect s1 rallye 16v track toy

   #6 7th August 2010, 13:42

   im geting a supersprint mani next, as my raceland that has been on the car less than 2 years has got cracks all over it and seems to have gone brittle and chunks have fallen out where it has cracked
7. XxiiGnarkillxX Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 salisbury Posts: 116 VTR mk2

   #7 9th August 2010, 22:43

   Mite b a stupid question. But a cat bck supersprint exhaust and the supersprint mani. will it pass the mot emmisions???
8. Mallyauto86 Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 France Just Under The Eifel Tower Posts: 1723

   #8 9th August 2010, 22:47

   Love my Suppersprint 4-2-1 Works amazing with my new Oreca Group N System much better than the pugsports etc
9. bluenotesmiley Established Member Joined: May 2008 Thanet, Kent Posts: 1529 White MkII VTS Black MkII VTS

   #9 10th August 2010, 01:07

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by XxiiGnarkillxX Mite b a stupid question. But a cat bck supersprint exhaust and the supersprint mani. will it pass the mot emmisions???

   Yeah providing you keep the cat and the car is operating correctly.
10. XxiiGnarkillxX Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 salisbury Posts: 116 VTR mk2

    #10 10th August 2010, 11:33

    Cheers m8.
    I got told that the cat on a mk2 was in the mani?
11. user_24390 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2008 North Wales Posts: 5576 Fabia VRS PD130/ VTR Mk2

    #11 10th August 2010, 13:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by XxiiGnarkillxX Cheers m8. I got told that the cat on a mk2 was in the mani?

    depends on the age, some of the older Mk2's during the crossover period have mixed systems.
    
    but newer mk2's have the cat in the mani
12. montsta1 L-plater Joined: Aug 2010 Felixstowe Posts: 40 MK1 Fully color-coded Blue VTs

    #12 10th August 2010, 18:03

    aswel as maing the car run better, the Supersprint will make it sound lush! one of my bestmates, has a 4-1 Mani, and u supersprint manilofd back system, runs beautifully, and sounds the shit!!!!!
13. adam661 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 chesterfield (ish) Posts: 2685 icelandic grey 53 vt

    #13 10th August 2010, 18:13

    i have the supersprint 4-2-1 manin with the supersprint race mid and kam backbox wen i orderd cam said you can expect aroun 8-14 bhp gains i think it was sounds awsome on very raspy only - imo is that it sounds a bit droney crusing in 5th at 70mph hope this helps
14. FuroPK Newbie Joined: Aug 2010 St. Clements, Jersey Posts: 9 Saxo 1.1 Desire :(

    #14 10th August 2010, 20:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FunkyDave Raceland 4-2-1 is ok on mine, but i'm guessin you want to know bout a vtr not 1.1

    I want to know about the 1.1 I have been looking on kamracing and have seen the superspirnt race exhaust kit i was thinking of getting along with an induction kit... would i need to uprate the mani? i know it would be preferable... but just wondering about cost... someone mentioned a Raceland 4-2-1... any ideas??
    
    Sorry i am very new to this
15. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #15 10th August 2010, 20:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FuroPK I want to know about the 1.1 I have been looking on kamracing and have seen the superspirnt race exhaust kit i was thinking of getting along with an induction kit... would i need to uprate the mani? i know it would be preferable... but just wondering about cost... someone mentioned a Raceland 4-2-1... any ideas?? Sorry i am very new to this

    
    you wouldnt have to uprate the mani, a lot of people have aftermarket exhausts and standard manifolds, and a raceland 4-2-1 is £148 iirc, kamracing put a link to the manifolds in there last post
16. XxiiGnarkillxX Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 salisbury Posts: 116 VTR mk2

    #16 10th August 2010, 21:28

    Mite have 2 invest in the mani and worry bout the mot wen its due. Cheers lads
17. FuroPK Newbie Joined: Aug 2010 St. Clements, Jersey Posts: 9 Saxo 1.1 Desire :(

    #17 10th August 2010, 21:58

    Could someone explain what the 4-2-1 means and what the difference between 4-2-1 and 4-1 is??
18. chrsjcb Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Basingstoke Posts: 285 2003 MK2 Saxo VTR

    #18 12th August 2010, 09:28

    Search:
    
    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...old+difference
19. Jo3fish Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 1267 03 EP3

    #19 12th August 2010, 09:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FuroPK Could someone explain what the 4-2-1 means and what the difference between 4-2-1 and 4-1 is??

    Its simply the 2 versions the manifold 'physically'come in;
    
    4-2-1; where the manifold bolts onto the head there are 4 pipes which when you follow the manifold down just towards the point in which it bends under the sump you will notice it merges into 2 pipes (bottom end area) and then if you follow it to where it goes to bolt onto the centre pipe it merges into 1 pipe.
    
    And the 4-1 is basically the same manifold but instead of merging into 2 pipes, just merges into 1 from 4 near the bottom of the manifold
    
    So think of it as a physical description.
    
    4-1 manifold iirc provide more top end 'flow' than the 4-2-1 but not as much low end torque gains as the 4-2-1