Important! : Help SaxP

1. jasonwellwicked Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2007 On a road near you! Posts: 336 Saxo mk2 VTR

   #1 19th August 2010, 14:27

   I am due to purchase my 4th Rear beam this afternoon and can no longer rely on my faith in hummanity for the condition of a rear beam on these vehicles through peoples word when I ask them 'is there any play...' this approach has screwed me out of a lot of money.
   
   How can I go about assessing its condition;
   
   In particular the play in the bearings, and in the radius arms.
   
   Tell tell signs needed really!
   
   Many thanks all!
   
   
   J
2. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

   #2 19th August 2010, 14:54

   Just save the heart ache and buy a recon beam
3. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

   #3 19th August 2010, 17:50

   go and test the beam while its still on the car if you want a secondhand one, not easy to test for play once beam is off.
4. user_15300 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Mansfield Posts: 6663 Astra Coupe Edition 100

   #4 19th August 2010, 18:00

   IM Axle's are your friend.
   
   Just fitted my 4th axle. Cost me £270 but it's a fully refurbed job
5. 3cott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts

   #5 19th August 2010, 19:23

   I'de never buy a second hand beam to much bad look with them
   Recon beam ftw
6. Bensvts Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts

   #6 19th August 2010, 20:36

   Anyone no of how to remove the rear wheel bearing on a saxo vts??
   cheers
7. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

   #7 19th August 2010, 20:49

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jasonwellwicked I am due to purchase my 4th Rear beam this afternoon and can no longer rely on my faith in hummanity for the condition of a rear beam on these vehicles through peoples word when I ask them 'is there any play...' this approach has screwed me out of a lot of money. How can I go about assessing its condition; In particular the play in the bearings, and in the radius arms. Tell tell signs needed really! Many thanks all! J

   
   Simple answer is, You can't.
   
   My old beam was totally fucked! Couldn't find any play in it on or off the car!
8. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

   #8 19th August 2010, 20:51

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Bensvts Anyone no of how to remove the rear wheel bearing on a saxo vts?? cheers

   Remove hub nut, pull off hub with bearing. Refit new hub with bearing.
   
   
   From what I've heard it's not worth the hassle trying to change just the bearing.
9. Bensvts Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts

   #9 19th August 2010, 20:54

   any idea of where the hub nut is exactly??
   
   cheers
10. Bensvts Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts

    #10 19th August 2010, 21:06

    There is a big allen key bolt dirrectly at the back of wheel the bearing sits, is this the bearing bolt? usually there is a cover on the front of the bearing and is there but doesn't seem to be a cover on the front??
    
    cheers for your help.
11. Bensvts Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts

    #11 19th August 2010, 21:07

    There is a big allen key bolt dirrectly at the back of where the bearing sits, is this the bearing bolt? usually there is a cover on the front of the bearing and is behind there but doesn't seem to be a cover on the front??
    
    cheers for your help.
12. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #12 19th August 2010, 21:07

    Right smack bang the middle of the hub. lol. Big fuck off thing. 32mm me thinks.
    
    It has a dust cover over it which you have to remove first. Hammer and a screwdriver will prise it off no probs.
13. Bensvts Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts

    #13 19th August 2010, 21:10

    Alright cheers for your help. will have to have a play tomoz now too dark. cheers again. im sure i will end up showing it whos boss lol
14. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #14 19th August 2010, 21:23

    Give it shit
15. Bensvts Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts

    #15 19th August 2010, 21:35

    Just had a quick look and yeah u hit the nail on the head. me being stupid really lol. i should of known it was behind there as i work for Renault lol basically the same. but yeah was well hidden with copper slip lol . cheers again your a star!!
16. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #16 19th August 2010, 21:42

    No problem mate. Thanks maybe?

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17. Bensvts Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts

    #17 19th August 2010, 21:51

    thanks
18. Bensvts Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts

    #18 20th August 2010, 21:14

    anyother question for you MR_P... or any on else with idea's
    
    Is there any way of removing the stub of ov the axle.. being the bit the bearing is pressed to with the treads on it???
    
    thanks
19. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #19 20th August 2010, 21:17

    The stub pin?
    
    Yes, needs to be pressed out. Give me a minute and I'll dig out a link for you regarding rebuilding a rear beam.
20. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #20 20th August 2010, 21:18

    http://www.205gtidrivers.com/article...rearbeamrefurb
    
    It's a long read. But it explains exactly what is involved in refurbing a rear axle.
21. Bensvts Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts

    #21 20th August 2010, 21:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr_P http://www.205gtidrivers.com/article...rearbeamrefurb It's a long read. But it explains exactly what is involved in refurbing a rear axle.

    had a little read couldn't see what was looking for.
    
    its the shaft bit where the bearing pushes over and has the threads on it to hold the bearing on.
    
    any clue's
22. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #22 20th August 2010, 21:35

    You mean the wheel bearing?
    
    
    If so, I have no idea if it's part of the trailing arm or a press fit. I have a feeling it is a press fit but can't think of ever seeing a replacement part.
    
    What do you mean by the part that has threads on it?
    
    You're loosing me... lol.
23. Bensvts Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts

    #23 20th August 2010, 21:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr_P You mean the wheel bearing? If so, I have no idea if it's part of the trailing arm or a press fit. I have a feeling it is a press fit but can't think of ever seeing a replacement part. What do you mean by the part that has threads on it? You're loosing me... lol.

    lol ok right the bit the wheel bearing slides onto
24. Bensvts Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts

    #24 20th August 2010, 21:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bensvts lol ok right the bit the wheel bearing slides onto

    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=103512
    
    go to the link scroll down and it is number 1 on the first picture
25. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #25 20th August 2010, 21:46

    I'm sure that part (part 1 in the picture) is one whole piece. The whole trailing would need replacing.
    
    I'm not definite so would wait for a second opinion.
26. Bensvts Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts

    #26 20th August 2010, 21:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr_P I'm sure that part (part 1 in the picture) is one whole piece. The whole trailing would need replacing. I'm not definite so would wait for a second opinion.

    i hope not but
    
    ok thanks anyways
27. user_46290 Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Scotland Posts: 1362 Citroen Saxo MK1

    #27 24th August 2010, 01:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by swampy Just save the heart ache and buy a recon beam

    Best Way bud