3 stud to 4 stud hub conversion

  1. Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 121
    #1
    I have used the search button but couldn't really find what i was looking for.


    Basically i have a 1997 1.1 saxo with 3 stud wheels and i want to stick some VTR wheels on it so need to do a 4 stud conversion.


    Am i right in thinking that i just buy some MK2 1.1 saxo front hubs (maybe even the leg?) and some rear drums off MK2 saxo??

    Are they a straight fit?

    cheers
  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD
    #2
    Need front struts and rear beam lad, hubs dontcome off front
  3. Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 121
    #3
    i need the whole axle!??!

    i thought i could just whip the drums over??

    what a kick in the teeth after i've just spent £50 on brake shoes and adjusters (some tosser welded mine together because they'd stripped)

    If the hub dosn't come off on the front then how do you go about fitting a aftermarket shock???
  4. Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 121
    #4
    also am i right in saying i need the bits off of the MK2 1.1 saxo???
  5. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Presteigne, Powys Posts: 736 96' clio 16v / 93' clio williams 1 / 00' saxo vtr.
    #5
    I too would like to know this.
  6. Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bourney View Post
    i need the whole axle!??!

    i thought i could just whip the drums over??

    what a kick in the teeth after i've just spent £50 on brake shoes and adjusters (some tosser welded mine together because they'd stripped)

    If the hub dosn't come off on the front then how do you go about fitting a aftermarket shock???
    No. 4 stud drums are bigger, your 3 stud shoes won't reach them = no rear brakes. I think I'm right in saying you can swap the backplates and all the arrangements over but you'd need new plates, shoes, springs and cylinders and for the hassle, a whole beam is 4 bolts.

    The shocks are inserts into the cast legs.
  7. Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Cheshire Posts: 441 furio ;)
    #7
    sounds like an effort... which is exacly why i stuck with my 3 stud hubs... just have a good look round for nice 3studded alloys i dont like vtr/s alloys anyway imo
  8. L-plater Joined: May 2009 Posts: 66
    #8
    rear beam = £30 - 40 from a scrappy = no hassel its 4 bolts

    the front .. you cant just bolt new hubs to the leg it doesnt work like that sadly ...
    youl have to buy 2 new legs off another saxo.. pritty sure it doesnt matter which mk it is .. but dont hold me to it .. and they will cost £20 each most
  9. Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament
    #9
    Need one with tapered hubs if you want to use your old driveshafts.

    Dunno what mk saxo this will be probably mk2, all i know is post-1999 GTi's had the tapered ones.
  10. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172
    #10
    a 1997 will be a mk1, no mk2's were 3 stud and all mk1's had flat ended shafts
  11. Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament
    #11
    Hmm...

    You sure that includes the 3 stud models? All I know is my 3 studder had tapered shafts as have all the other 3 stud cars I've worked on, albeit 106's.

    Bloody citroens.

    EDIT: To quote AXOC

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RallyeAX
    Summary:

    non tapered = pre 99/00 4 stud and pre 91 3 stud

    tapered = post 99/00 4 stud and post 91 3 stud