help, torsion bare nitemare

26th August 2010, 20:39

hello lads ive been on here before an just bought a 52 plate vts so im back lol, anyway the car has been lowered on the front an not the back so i started to do the rear an have undone everythin but im havin trouble gettion the torsion bars out any ideas , oh and ive tred slide hammer ect,

26th August 2010, 20:54

Slide hammer is always my preferred method. You may just require a bigger one. Unless your getting to the point your snapping a good quality bolt of the end. Some people swear by making a home made pulley. I have done this a few times when I had no hammer to hand and it works ok so may be worth a try. Its also worth giving everything a good soak in plus gas or other such freeing agent. Failing that heat though you will normally have to replace the seals if you start going that drastic. Some people also try hitting one end of the bar whilst using a slide hammer on the other.

26th August 2010, 20:58

ok thanks for that , i mite try hittin the other end, is there a washer that has to be taken out on both sides in that case or just the 1 ?

26th August 2010, 21:01

You have to unscrew the screws from both end of the torsion bars and take out the two off set washers. Use some thing soft ish to hammer it out as you don't want to damage anything. Generally hammering would be my very last option as it had the most chance of going wrong.

26th August 2010, 21:04

Hammering is y preferred method by far over a slide hammer

Nothing bad can happen so long as you put a bolt in the end of the torsion bar

26th August 2010, 21:05

yee ive taken the 1 washer out of either side of the torsion bar and all 4 torque bits, soo spose its just a case of hitting away :-s

26th August 2010, 21:07

if you are going to hit the other end you will have to remove the cam shape washer from that end aswell, then put a small bolt in fully and get a bar to sit on the head of the bolt and beat it out, i find if you make the puller up one end using a socket it puts the bar under pressure then the beating the other end normally shifts it mate hope this helps

26th August 2010, 21:07

soo let me get this rite , to remove the upper torsion bar i put a bolt in the drivers side an hit it out the passanger side where i removed the washer from ???

26th August 2010, 21:10

ok thanks lads. wat a nitemare it is to get the washers out tho :-( , anyone wanna help lol ?

26th August 2010, 21:11

to remove the torsion bar that is closet to the front of the car you will need to remove both the cam washers in the ends of the bars, then use the socket puller on the passenger side of the bar and put a bolt in the drivers side and hit the head of the bolt from the drivers side

26th August 2010, 21:18

lol washers take like 30seconds to do, easy peasy. WD40, flat head screw driver to clean the shit out where the washer is gonna slide. Then get a bolt and use that to tap the washer out. Easy.

26th August 2010, 21:18

if its that easy cum and show me :-p haha

26th August 2010, 21:19

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Originally Posted by db_sax

lol washers take like 30seconds to do, easy peasy. WD40, flat head screw driver to clean the shit out where the washer is gonna slide. Then get a bolt and use that to tap the washer out. Easy.

Washers can take a very very long time danny

26th August 2010, 21:21

Then get a long bar, and a lump hammer and wack it out, 20 hits should see it out, unless your some hench ronnie coleman, but then id doubt he'd own a saxo..

26th August 2010, 21:21

i find they come out easy but are a cunt to get back in and line up, either go first time or take ages

26th August 2010, 21:21

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Originally Posted by Bickerton

Washers can take a very very long time danny

Not when i do it

, get them out within 2 minutes anyway lol

26th August 2010, 21:22

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Originally Posted by DAZZY_R

if its that easy cum and show me :-p haha

Where are you located?

26th August 2010, 21:25

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Originally Posted by db_sax

Not when i do it

, get them out within 2 minutes anyway lol

I've been present at about 60+ torsion bar lowerings.

Some yes are easy and almost flop out, others have taken up to 40 minutes.

An engineers scribe makes life ALOT easier

26th August 2010, 21:27

birmingham , an i got the snapon chisel out an hit it , that works lol

26th August 2010, 21:28

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Originally Posted by DAZZY_R

birmingham , an i got the snapon chisel out an hit it , that works lol

It does, sometimes it's almost fused.

26th August 2010, 21:29

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Originally Posted by Bickerton

I've been present at about 60+ torsion bar lowerings.

Some yes are easy and almost flop out, others have taken up to 40 minutes.

An engineers scribe makes life ALOT easier

Yeh scribe is what i used, with a bent tip to get in. But i used a flat head on some of them the other day and worked just aswell tbh!

26th August 2010, 22:55

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Originally Posted by DAZZY_R

birmingham , an i got the snapon chisel out an hit it , that works lol

Where abouts in Birmingham are you located?

Have been lowering torsion bars regularly for over 2 years now and ther washers are potentially the most awkward part of the job.

Its been a very very long time since its took any more than a few minutes to get the torsion bars free.

Slide hammers and socket method are very inferior and can have very bad drawbacks

26th August 2010, 23:14

So what method would you suggest?

27th August 2010, 09:00

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Originally Posted by adamskiTNR

So what method would you suggest?

Axle stand, bar and a large hammer

27th August 2010, 16:14

ive been usind a sledge hammer an a bolt 2day any1 near birmingham , erdington that could hep me pleaaseeee

27th August 2010, 16:24

and a bar?

27th August 2010, 23:12

sit the bar on top off an axle stand so it is lined up and if need be get a mate to hold the bar while you hit it with the sledge hammer, make sure you have both washer out one from each end, cnt think of any other reason why it would come out mate

28th August 2010, 14:10

whooo its done, i got pissed off an smacked the arm off instead , its all good noo funny noiises either , thanks lads