Ignition barrel

1. goldmember Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Crewe Posts: 212 Citreon Saxo Furio 2000

   #1 31st August 2010, 19:24

   went to turn off my car today and my key got jammed in the ignition, tried for ages getting it out, had to get the RAC out, in the end i yanked the key out but then the ignition is still on and stays on even when i turn the key nothing happens, so i think i need a new ignition barrel, is it easy to take out and replace? and are they expensive?
   
   thanks
2. goldmember Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Crewe Posts: 212 Citreon Saxo Furio 2000

   #2 1st September 2010, 00:26

   Oh and forgot to say, RAC jumped my car so I could drive it home but it felt like the power steering wasn't working,what could this be?
3. Morgiee Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 Middlesbrough Posts: 2267 Past: Citroen Saxo Forte W reg posi blue Now: H

   #3 1st September 2010, 00:42

   You can get a replacement ignition barrel but you will have to keep both sets of keys one to open the dor/lock (the old key) and the new key to start the car however an ecu configeration may be needed as even though its a simple clip in and clip out the ECU will want only the old key code. Unless you get the key code changed on the key however dont think its possible or ECU reset. either way its not going to be cheap as the ignition sytem are desned not to be hot wired anymore. And old key may fit into new igntion barrel but the codes are differant and thats what stops it.
   
   Here is a ignition barrel and key set to get you started:
   
   Cheap set:
   
   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CITROEN-SAXO-M...es_CarParts_SM
   
   More expensive but probs more benafitial set:
   
   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CITREON-SAXO-I...es_CarParts_SM
   
   but you will need to get into touch with an auto electrican garage or Mnic motors to get diagnostic and upgrade jobs done on the ECU. Good luck Buddy lets kno how you get on
4. goldmember Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Crewe Posts: 212 Citreon Saxo Furio 2000

   #4 2nd September 2010, 20:10

   thanks alot for the help mate, iv ordered the first one u put up. could any1 help- am i right in sayin if i take the chip out of the top of the old key and put it in the new key, everything will be fine? is this an easy job to do?
5. Morgiee Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 Middlesbrough Posts: 2267 Past: Citroen Saxo Forte W reg posi blue Now: H

   #5 2nd September 2010, 21:21

   Its a mess on mate, i need to do that for my remote engine start. Just take your old key or spare in for a re-cut with imobiliser probs looking £20.
   
   Or you can put it in the new key their is a guy here who does this were you put the chip in the blank key. ill have a quick look ........
6. Morgiee Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 Middlesbrough Posts: 2267 Past: Citroen Saxo Forte W reg posi blue Now: H

   #6 2nd September 2010, 21:26

   Look at post 1 and them read post 5 it confirms you take the chip out and put it in with the battery in the new one
7. goldmember Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Crewe Posts: 212 Citreon Saxo Furio 2000

   #7 2nd September 2010, 21:39

   oh right so you can just put the old key chip into the new key? with a new barrel and it will work? no messing around with the ecu? which posts am i looking at mate? thanks again
8. Morgiee Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 Middlesbrough Posts: 2267 Past: Citroen Saxo Forte W reg posi blue Now: H

   #8 2nd September 2010, 21:51

   1 and 4 and just remembered your replacing the keys. Is their no way uou can use the old barral still cos you could use old barral and chip from old key in new that would work. If you install the new barral you will need to use the keys proveded. But to open the fuel tank is the old key. So unless you have a spare its a pickle
9. goldmember Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Crewe Posts: 212 Citreon Saxo Furio 2000

   #9 2nd September 2010, 21:59

   oh right yeah i understand and nope i dont think so, its collasped =/ the key just keeps turning in it yeah i have a spare key, so i was thinking, use the old key to open doors and fuel cap and new to start the ignition? would that be okay? if i put the old chip into the new key?
10. Morgiee Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 Middlesbrough Posts: 2267 Past: Citroen Saxo Forte W reg posi blue Now: H

    #10 2nd September 2010, 22:18

    No if you have spare key its fine, use spare key for fuel tank and doors and when you receive the new ignition barrel it HAS to include the keys. Lable them so you dont get mixed up and with the keys provided use that to start the car. The only thing stopping the car from starting is the code on the chip in the corisponding key. Yuor old spare key is usless to the new barral. so DONT remove the chip from it. It just means now you will have to use seperate keys as apose to having one. However try using the new keys provided on the fuel tank you might be ok with that but doors might want the old keys. But try that too no harm in trying worst senario it wont work. But if your like me a worry freak id get a spare of the old spare key lol
11. goldmember Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Crewe Posts: 212 Citreon Saxo Furio 2000

    #11 2nd September 2010, 22:39

    thankss alot mate, you've bin a massive help! il give it ago tomorrow when i recieve the bits i was just worried it may cost alot to fix but i think it should be okay thanks again
12. Morgiee Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 Middlesbrough Posts: 2267 Past: Citroen Saxo Forte W reg posi blue Now: H

    #12 2nd September 2010, 23:17

    No worries mate here to help on electrics
13. Simonl9425 Newbie Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 3

    #13 25th August 2013, 17:38

    Hi could anyone help me please ? I've snapped my key off in my Saxo ignition barrell and now carnt use my car .. So can I change the barrell and have a new key from the scrap yard ? I'm under the impression if I try and change the ignition barrel this will be hard and how will I make the car start please ? I'm really in it deep here and need to get my car fixed ASAP I can do the work if I had some instructions . Can anyone help please ? Simonl9425 07765401668 or spl2@hotmail.co.uk. Thank you in advance .
14. Paulp Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE

    #14 25th August 2013, 18:08

    Never dealt with this myself, all the above seems a bit of ball ache of a job.
    
    Can't help but think, would it not be easier just removing the immobilisor with the car running to unlock the ECU then just fit a new ignition barrel & key?
    
    Can someone confirm the above before anyone does it. As that seems a more simple way around this.
15. Paulp Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE

    #15 25th August 2013, 18:13

    This thread may help anyone with this problem.
    
    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=228926
16. Simonl9425 Newbie Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 3

    #16 27th August 2013, 11:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Morgiee No worries mate here to help on electrics

    I carnt get any life out of my Saxo in the instrument cluster there for there carnt be any power to it ? Do I carnt start the car .. Does anyone know much about the electrics on these please ? As I desperatly need my car back for work .. Thanks
17. Morgiee Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 Middlesbrough Posts: 2267 Past: Citroen Saxo Forte W reg posi blue Now: H

    #17 27th August 2013, 17:56

    PM me all about your problem and ill look into it mate, handy with vehicle electronics.
18. Simonl9425 Newbie Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 3

    #18 27th August 2013, 21:23

    Hi morggie are you online ? Can you call me please as I'm no good with these sites ? My number is 07765401668 or ill call you back I'd you send me your number . Thank you sinonl9425
19. Morgiee Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 Middlesbrough Posts: 2267 Past: Citroen Saxo Forte W reg posi blue Now: H

    #19 27th August 2013, 21:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Simonl9425 Hi morggie are you online ? Can you call me please as I'm no good with these sites ? My number is 07765401668 or ill call you back I'd you send me your number . Thank you sinonl9425

    Hi Simon i am unable to take calls at the moments, however easy to send me a message on here follow the instruction below:
    
    Click on my name (Morigee)
    
    When on my account under my picture of my car click on "send message"
    
    Then press "send a private message to Morigee"
    
    A text box will appear write your message in there along with a title and after your done press send.
    
    
    
    Thanks Morigee
20. Morgiee Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 Middlesbrough Posts: 2267 Past: Citroen Saxo Forte W reg posi blue Now: H

    #20 29th August 2013, 20:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Paul Never dealt with this myself, all the above seems a bit of ball ache of a job. Can't help but think, would it not be easier just removing the immobilisor with the car running to unlock the ECU then just fit a new ignition barrel & key? Can someone confirm the above before anyone does it. As that seems a more simple way around this.

    This can be done but a chew on and alot of the time you don't need to go to the extreme of ecu and ignition barrel replacement. You don't even need to change the ecu as your key codes are not stores there. In Simon case this cant be done but the clarify this comment, yes it is OK to do this, but at an expense.
    
    Morigee