Widemouth

1. cloke Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Barnstaple/Devon Posts: 1503 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS Lusso

   #1 2nd September 2010, 20:18

   Does anyone know if there is a guide to widemouth? I've searched but can't find anything. Also any tips would be greatly appreciated.
   Cheers
2. paulwoodford Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 East Yorkshire Posts: 219 Mk1 VTS Rally car Mk2 VTS road car

   #2 2nd September 2010, 20:20

   Is widemouth when the bottom grille is cut out?
3. cloke Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Barnstaple/Devon Posts: 1503 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS Lusso

   #3 2nd September 2010, 20:23

   Yep, cut, smoothed and painted black if ya like
4. paulwoodford Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 East Yorkshire Posts: 219 Mk1 VTS Rally car Mk2 VTS road car

   #4 2nd September 2010, 20:28

   There's an Icelandic one in the projects section with a carbon surrounded one I saw earlier, looked awesome! Would make it easier too if you could just cut it, neaten it up a bit then put a surround on.
5. cloke Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Barnstaple/Devon Posts: 1503 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS Lusso

   #5 2nd September 2010, 20:30

   Yeah but I think it looks a lot neater if it's cut nd smoothed. Plus surrounds r like £70+
6. paulwoodford Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 East Yorkshire Posts: 219 Mk1 VTS Rally car Mk2 VTS road car

   #6 2nd September 2010, 20:31

   Fair enough.
7. Anthony Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Cornwall Posts: 1594 Mk 1 Red VTR

   #7 2nd September 2010, 21:24

   I would wide mouthed my bumper recently.
   
   Basically you need to cut out the vertical and horizontal slats, which will leave gaps/holes. I used fiberglass matting cut to shape and placed over the holes and then applied fiberglass resin on top (which makes the matting harden and makes it really strong) once set apply filler on top and shape it. Takes a lot of time and a lot of rubbing down adding more filler rubbing down again etc.
   
   Some people may say that you should plastic weld the holes but if the fiberglass matting is done properly it will be fine mate.
   
   Edit: check my progress thread for some pictures if you like. pages 14/15 maybe 16 lol.
8. cloke Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Barnstaple/Devon Posts: 1503 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS Lusso

   #8 2nd September 2010, 21:30

   Cheers mate, great help
9. cloke Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Barnstaple/Devon Posts: 1503 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS Lusso

   #9 2nd September 2010, 21:37

   Mate I love it, looks well good. Love your splitter aswel! Where can I get that fibreglass matting n resin from mate??
10. Anthony Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Cornwall Posts: 1594 Mk 1 Red VTR

    #10 2nd September 2010, 21:47

    Thanks mate
    
    I personally used this resin: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/fibre-glass-re...item5889892e54
    
    Can't remember which matting but here's what ebay has to offer: http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=f....c0.m270.l1313
    
    Maybe if you shop around you could get them cheaper though
11. cloke Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Barnstaple/Devon Posts: 1503 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS Lusso

    #11 2nd September 2010, 21:49

    Sweet cheers mate easy enough to do?
12. Anthony Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Cornwall Posts: 1594 Mk 1 Red VTR

    #12 2nd September 2010, 21:54

    No problem.
    
    It can be tricky but its simple enough. Get a some scissors cut the matting into a square shape big enough to overlap the hole then mix some resin up with hardener in a bowl and apply the resin on top of the matting with a brush. Come back in a few hours and it will be rock solid.
13. Anthony Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Cornwall Posts: 1594 Mk 1 Red VTR

    #13 2nd September 2010, 21:58

    Heres some pictures of what I mean, it's de-fogging the bumper but its the same method with wide mouth.
    
    I cut some fiberglass matting to shape
    
    
    
    Then applied the fiberglass resin...
    
    
    
    This is what it now looked like from the outside....
    
    
    
    Lots of filler, only got 1 picture of this but it took lots of sanding then appling more filler etc to get it right!!!
    
    
    Hope this helps.
14. cloke Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Barnstaple/Devon Posts: 1503 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS Lusso

    #14 2nd September 2010, 22:48

    Cheers mate, appreciate it.
15. Rudpud Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2009 Oxford Posts: 4547 '55 Plate C2 VTS

    #15 2nd September 2010, 23:37

    cover up the fogs with some plastic things off a 1.1 and dont paint the cut out slats fromo the middle... keep it same colour
16. cloke Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Barnstaple/Devon Posts: 1503 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS Lusso

    #16 2nd September 2010, 23:42

    Probs keep the fogs for the time being mate, not looking for smoothed look, dnt think it would suit my car. And y dnt u think I should paint the widemouth mate?
17. Rudpud Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2009 Oxford Posts: 4547 '55 Plate C2 VTS

    #17 2nd September 2010, 23:43

    Personally i think it looks shit painted. Like dribble haha
    
    Oh sorry i thought when chatting bout the fibreglassing you was on bout the fogs mate
18. cloke Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Barnstaple/Devon Posts: 1503 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS Lusso

    #18 2nd September 2010, 23:54

    Dribble lol. Well I like the look of it so I'll try it nd if I go off it I'll just colour code it. And he put the pics of the fogs up as reference to fibreglassing
19. Anthony Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Cornwall Posts: 1594 Mk 1 Red VTR

    #19 3rd September 2010, 10:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cloke Cheers mate, appreciate it.

    There's a "thanks" btton you know
    
    haha just joking, no problems bud hope it helps.

    1 user thanked this post: user_35776
20. dan_msx Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 Chesterfield, Derbyshire Posts: 195 Saxo VTS

    #20 3rd September 2010, 10:42

    have a look at my project thread bud, i have a carbon widemouth insert.....
21. dan_msx Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 Chesterfield, Derbyshire Posts: 195 Saxo VTS

    #21 3rd September 2010, 10:42

    heres link...... CLICK
22. cloke Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Barnstaple/Devon Posts: 1503 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS Lusso

    #22 3rd September 2010, 10:45

    not my cuppa tea mate, dont like the way it sticks out. and would probs be cheaper 2 smooth it. car looks good tho mate.
23. user_39025 Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Arbroath Posts: 749 Golf Gti 1.8 20v T

    #23 3rd September 2010, 16:11

    i used an insert on mine and its probably the worst thing i've done so far but now its in im not buying a new bumper i'll just have to live with it
24. cloke Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Barnstaple/Devon Posts: 1503 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS Lusso

    #24 3rd September 2010, 16:16

    Can't you take the insert out n sort your bumper??
25. user_35776 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Barnstaple Posts: 1666 Mk 6 zetec s

    #25 3rd September 2010, 18:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ant809099 There's a "thanks" btton you know haha just joking, no problems bud hope it helps.

    you forgot to thank the poorboy
    be using this to help me also with fog light smoothing
26. user_39025 Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Arbroath Posts: 749 Golf Gti 1.8 20v T

    #26 3rd September 2010, 18:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cloke Can't you take the insert out n sort your bumper??

    no,you have to cut loads away to get it to fit
27. cloke Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Barnstaple/Devon Posts: 1503 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS Lusso

    #27 3rd September 2010, 19:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DanViner you forgot to thank the poorboy be using this to help me also with fog light smoothing

    Nah he's winding me up cs I kept saying thanks every 2posts lol how's your car coming mate, not seen many updates lately.lol
28. user_35776 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Barnstaple Posts: 1666 Mk 6 zetec s

    #28 3rd September 2010, 19:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cloke Nah he's winding me up cs I kept saying thanks every 2posts lol how's your car coming mate, not seen many updates lately.lol

    i have only had it a week
    just got new pipe/stickers atm
    
    trying to find the paint code for bottom half before anything else commences really
29. cloke Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Barnstaple/Devon Posts: 1503 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS Lusso

    #29 3rd September 2010, 19:45

    Oh right. I've just fitted jewels to mine. Waiting on springs nd induction kit to come nd currently sorting my bumper
30. user_35776 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Barnstaple Posts: 1666 Mk 6 zetec s

    #30 3rd September 2010, 19:55

    Sick sounds good always a place in my heart for a flatty lol
    How much you lowering it by and who doing your torsion bar
31. cloke Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Barnstaple/Devon Posts: 1503 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS Lusso

    #31 3rd September 2010, 19:58

    40mm and my bros doing it for me, he's got his own garage, I love it haha helps me so much!
32. user_31231 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 Derby Posts: 1153 VW Passat 1.9tdi 150

    #32 3rd September 2010, 20:33

    i cut the slats out and plastic welded patchs into the gaps and the used fiberglass filler so theres no chance of it falling out over time
33. cloke Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Barnstaple/Devon Posts: 1503 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS Lusso

    #33 3rd September 2010, 23:18

    Yeah I'm going to use fibreglass nd filler, so hopefully it'll turn out ok
34. SaxoMike1989 Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2010 Wigan Posts: 146 Citroen Saxo 1.6 VTR

    #34 6th September 2010, 20:16

    take a look at my pics ive just done a spray widemouth no assle 1-2 hours work still looks smart kno where near as good but still for time an money well worth it
35. cloke Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Barnstaple/Devon Posts: 1503 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS Lusso

    #35 6th September 2010, 20:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaxoMike1989 take a look at my pics ive just done a spray widemouth no assle 1-2 hours work still looks smart kno where near as good but still for time an money well worth it

    Well I've already cut my bumper up lol and my bros mate is gunna sand, fill, primer n paint it all up for me, so fuck al for mr to do now lol