piper 4-1 manifold

1. rollerdan Frequent Poster Joined: May 2009 carmarthen Posts: 684 citroen saxo vtr phase 2

   #1 3rd September 2010, 13:01

   my manifold is leaking on where it joins to the head on the bottom left hand side im just wondering does antyone know if piper do a fitting kit ? i cant find one anywhere on the net ? also isit possible to just fit a normal saxo exhaust manifold gakset or does it have to be specific for the manifold?
2. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #2 3rd September 2010, 14:03

   I can't speak from experience but i can imagine you will need a different gasket as the manifold it totally different to the standard one?
3. GoGs_MacAulay Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Angus Posts: 668 02 Saxo Vts

   #3 3rd September 2010, 14:14

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by rollerdan my manifold is leaking on where it joins to the head on the bottom left hand side im just wondering does antyone know if piper do a fitting kit ? i cant find one anywhere on the net ? also isit possible to just fit a normal saxo exhaust manifold gakset or does it have to be specific for the manifold?

   my piper 4-1 manifold was fine with a new exhaust gasket, dont think piper do i fittin kit no but no 100% on that. sounds silly but i remember the bolts were a cunt to tighten, u sure there tight? try i new exhaust gasket from citroen, they dont cost much at all. could even give u the part number for the gasket.
4. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #4 3rd September 2010, 14:20

   remove the manifold, clean off the old gaskets and then use a high temperature silicon gasket sealer. I dont bother with paper gaskets on my cars anymore and the stuff has not failed me yet.
5. GoGs_MacAulay Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Angus Posts: 668 02 Saxo Vts

   #5 3rd September 2010, 14:32

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by KamRacing remove the manifold, clean off the old gaskets and then use a high temperature silicon gasket sealer. I dont bother with paper gaskets on my cars anymore and the stuff has not failed me yet.

   but the manifold gasket is metal/tin. am lost, haa but yeah sure that would work too.
6. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #6 3rd September 2010, 14:47

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by GoGs_MacAulay but the manifold gasket is metal/tin. am lost, haa but yeah sure that would work too.

   ok well some are sandwiched card, others metal. I still prefer prefer the silicon paste.
7. rollerdan Frequent Poster Joined: May 2009 carmarthen Posts: 684 citroen saxo vtr phase 2

   #7 3rd September 2010, 15:01

   where can i get this paste from? any local autmottive shop or? also the manifold is blowing on where it joins the centre pipe im unsure if the gasket is a right fit.. the bolts dnt really tighten up square like one bolt has covered alot more thread than the other one .... can anyone tell me the size of the gasket fro the centre pipe i need
8. GoGs_MacAulay Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Angus Posts: 668 02 Saxo Vts

   #8 3rd September 2010, 15:02

   yeah ur local autmottive shop should sell it.
9. rollerdan Frequent Poster Joined: May 2009 carmarthen Posts: 684 citroen saxo vtr phase 2

   #9 3rd September 2010, 15:10

   is there a certain make?
10. GoGs_MacAulay Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Angus Posts: 668 02 Saxo Vts

    #10 3rd September 2010, 15:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rollerdan is there a certain make?

    just ask for high temperature silicon gasket sealer. they should know what ur on about. simples
11. rollerdan Frequent Poster Joined: May 2009 carmarthen Posts: 684 citroen saxo vtr phase 2

    #11 3rd September 2010, 15:14

    thanks for help guys very thankfull
12. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #12 3rd September 2010, 15:18

    I'm not a fan of gasket sealant. Makes a mess and goes all nasty around the threads. Gaskets ftw

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13. rollerdan Frequent Poster Joined: May 2009 carmarthen Posts: 684 citroen saxo vtr phase 2

    #13 3rd September 2010, 15:32

    i just want somthing to stop it from blowing cus it sounds like a tractor and im not really getting any performance gains ...
14. rollerdan Frequent Poster Joined: May 2009 carmarthen Posts: 684 citroen saxo vtr phase 2

    #14 3rd September 2010, 15:33

    does a standard citroen exhaust gasket fit on a piper manifold if so i have a brand new one in my mates house .... il put that on and gasket sealer then see how it goes 2moro
15. LWS_71 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Kent Posts: 752 A written off mini

    #15 3rd September 2010, 16:03

    Standard gasket from citroen will be fine mate. Had one with my piper 4-1 and was perfect. Bit of sealent for that extra seal is always good mate.
16. user_36594 Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 Weston Super Mare Posts: 1298

    #16 3rd September 2010, 19:09

    Bout to do the exact same thing on mine! helpful read
17. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #17 6th September 2010, 12:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adamskiTNR I'm not a fan of gasket sealant. Makes a mess and goes all nasty around the threads. Gaskets ftw

    you should only be applying a small bead round the ports, none around the threads..If you get the beading size right there is little expansion as you tighten everything
18. iowracer L-plater Joined: Nov 2009 isle of wight Posts: 94 mk1 fiesta s.s 106 gti rs2000 escort van fiesta

    #18 11th September 2010, 15:27

    make sure you remove all crap from mani and head surfaces. i have used very fine wet and dry in the past. i exspect a normal gasket fits aslong as exhaust port holes line up?? not sure tho. dont think mine had 1 when fitted racland 421