My Car Spec

4th May 2006, 20:44

Suppose its about time I posted this, although i will back this up with pics very soon, im almost done, I wanted to wait til it was all sorted but its only a matter of time so might as well get the ball rolling.

my hush hush spec as below:

Engine:
Citroen C2 1.6 16v engine
OMEGA Forged 1mm Low Compression .3mm oversized Pistons.
C2 Big Valve Head
Saxo 1597cc Bottom End with new big and main bearings
Saxo Pullys and Tensioners
Saxo Vernier Pulleys
Garrett T28 60 BB A/R Turbocharger
Tubular 4-1 Turbo manifold with external wastegate takeoff
40mm TIAL External Wastegate set @ .6bar (8spi)
Running between 0.6-1.4 bar of boost. (8psi-22psi)
Rising Rate Turbo 1:1 Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator @ 4BAR
Uprated Motorsport Spec Fuel Pump (intank)
2x1.6mm Multilayered Steel Head Gaskets (to lower compression)
NGK BCR8ES Cooler Running Spark Plugs
Omex 600 Fuel and Ignition Standalone ECU with additional aux loom
4x 383cc High Impediance Injectors
Custom Fuel rail for larger injectors.
Innovative Wideband LC-1 controlling of lambda
Custom Large full width front mounted 3" Intercooler with 3" inlets
3 Bar Map Sensor
Custom 3" Exhaust downpipe (wrapped)
Custom 3" Exhaust system, Straight through no boxes
Custom 4" Titanium Apexi N1 Exhaust Backbox with 3" inlet.
Custom 2.5" Induction/Boost Pipes
Mocal 19 Row Oil Cooler
Mocal Oil Thermostat in-line to cooler
Mocal Remote Oil Filter Housing with SPA Oil Temperature Fitment
Mocal Filter Take Off Plate
Diesel Radiator with Custom header tank
12" SPAL Slim Cooling fan
2 x 8" Kenlowe Cooling fans for engine/intercooler cooling.
Cooler running thermostat @ 82deg
Chrome Alloy catch tank
Group N Solid Engine mounts

Transmission:

BE3-MA Gearbox conversion, using 206 GTI 180 Gearbox
Quaife ATB LSD Differential (BE3)
AP Racing Grp N Racing clutch cover 184mm
AP Racing twin-plate lug drive Grp N Racing clutch 184mm
Custom made Gear Selector Rods.
Lightened and Balanced flywheel.
Uprated Clutch/Flywheel Bolts
Uprated Clutch Arm
AP Racing Grp N Release Bearing
Uprated rose jointed lower engine mount
Solid Plate gearbox mount

Suspension:
Lowered 40mm using Custom H&R Coilover Springs
Bilstein Sprint Shock Absorbers (front)
Lowered 40mm on Custom GAZ Coilover Rear Springs
Gaz Rear Coilover Shockers
Adjustable TAS top mounts
Re-inforced front Top Strut Housings
Braided Goodrich Brake Hoses (Front)
Braided Goodrich Brake Hoses (Rear)
Braided Goodrich Brake Hoses (over axel)
Uprated Front Anti-rollbar Grp N Bushes
Uprated Front Anti-rollbad droplink suspension
Uprated Grp N Rear Axel Bushes
25mm Rear Anti-rollbar.
Torsion Bars removed (via coilover rear)

Brakes:
285mm 26mm thick vented front brake discs
Wilwood 4 Pot Racing Brake Calipers 1.38" pistons (Front)
Wilwood Racing Pads - (Front)
285mm 26mm thick vented rear brake discs
Brembo 2 Pot Racing Brake Calipers 1.38" Pistons (Rear)
Brembo Racing Pads (Rear)
23mm Brake Master Cylinder
Larger Capacity Vacuum Servo
Hydraulic Handbrake with lockable Handle
Adjustable Rear Bias Valve (Screw)

Interior:
SPA Design Digital Boost Pressure/Boost Temperature Gauge
SPA Design Digital Oil Temperature/Water Temperature Gauge
Digital Inlet Air Temperature Gauge (before intercooler)
Fuel Pressure Gauge (on Fuel Pressure Regulator)
Oil Pressure Gauge
Digital Voltage Gauge
Apexi Exhaust Gas Temp Gauge
Apexi AVC-R Digital Boost Actuator Controller
Alpha Air/Fuel Ratio meter LM1 (Small)
Lotus Elise Leather Race Bucket Seats (green/white)
Stripped out all plastics, carpets and roof lining.
Momo Steering Whee

4th May 2006, 20:50

That is a very impressive Spec mate!

Cant wait to see some pics!

So are you gone be out on track with us or not?

4th May 2006, 20:51

im wokring on it! lol

4th May 2006, 20:54

**** me! what a car! except the 17s imo. Suppose it doesnt really make a difference with a spec like that.

jealous.

4th May 2006, 20:55

needs 17s to help put the power down, anything less it spins like crazy, otherwise i would have 15s

4th May 2006, 20:58

Sounds bloody awesome mate, will be interesting to see the graph

When does the turbo spool and see full boost if you know?

4th May 2006, 21:03

starts spooling at about 3k with full boost by 3.7k

4th May 2006, 21:53

f**kin hell mate when u sed it was an expensive hobby didnt relise u robbed a bank to fund it!

4th May 2006, 22:03

wow thats all im going to say

4th May 2006, 22:04

i cant believe the spec list on that ! is longer than the receipt after a weekly shop as tesco's .

i am looking forward to seeing this in the metal , all the best with the project .

4th May 2006, 23:20

can't wait to see her man

and how much BHP you will get???

4th May 2006, 23:45

will this beast be at fcs?

4th May 2006, 23:48

christ you must be minted!. how do you fund all that?.

4th May 2006, 23:57

most of its done by me so no labour, most expensive part was the ecu

5th May 2006, 00:20

this sounds amazing! very unique, whats the exterior description? and have you any idea on what power its pushing yet?

5th May 2006, 00:54

no idea on power yet, exterior apart from the wheels its std.

5th May 2006, 01:01

very impressive mate, look forward to seeing the finished car

5th May 2006, 06:12

Told you its going to be a beast LOL

two words for you:

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i will give you a race at FCS, see who can do the slowest lap LOL

5th May 2006, 06:18

thats no spec thats a bible

thats really imprseive mate i wasnt expecting all that

hope it does make it to fcs

5th May 2006, 14:08

really useful boost range, what limit you thinking of or waiting for mapping to see when it tails off?

5th May 2006, 14:18

im setting the rev limiter at 7400, cant see me needing any more than that, although when i get my custom cams sorted that might need changing but then so will springs, and lifters depending on cam lift.

Thats if im allowed to spend any more lol

5th May 2006, 14:27

WOW. That is very impressive. If you don't mind me asking, how much have you spent roughly? That must be one of the best tuned saxos that I personally have heard of, if not the best. I LOVE the sound of it.

5th May 2006, 14:57

not sure to be honest. If i put a figure on it including buying the car, it would be around the 7k mark.

5th May 2006, 15:01

7k for a monster is a bargain, do you do all your own pipe work an stuff 2, did ya make the manifold or buy it?

5th May 2006, 15:20

I bet you've saved a fortune with the amount of work you have done yourself. I havn't got the guts or the funds to attempt stuff like that.

5th May 2006, 15:42

all the stuff has either been done by me or mates, amazing how far a few

go

5th May 2006, 16:31

what tyres you thinking off, semis?

P.S. im going to steal it

5th May 2006, 16:37

its more secure than my house

Not sure on tyres yet, its got crap ones on at the mo, but does for the mapping. When is FCS or the next event type thing?

5th May 2006, 16:48

27th May is the Day before FCS.. The Track Day!

Hope you can make it! Will be a monster!

5th May 2006, 17:40

Sounds like a monster mate, will be interesting to see the rr figures.

5th May 2006, 20:41

excellent spec ratty,look foward to seeing it one day,are you running launch/traction control aswell?

5th May 2006, 20:47

yup

5th May 2006, 21:21

LOL you r the dude

5th May 2006, 23:16

Is this in the AX or a Saxo?

5th May 2006, 23:40

saxo, ax went a while ago.

5th May 2006, 23:42

Sounds bloody awesome matey! You have to get it to fcs!

Wish I was able to do something like that!

5th May 2006, 23:51

Excuse me while I go change my undies, i seem to have made a mess (without meaning to sound too crude)

I'm coming to the FCS just to see this go now Ratty, if you manage to make it down that is

Hats off Ratty, amazing stuff

6th May 2006, 00:03

the mysterious guy reveals all huh

sounds pretty unreal tbh mate, love to see it moving..

6th May 2006, 00:32

that is an unberlievable spec!! that will be awesome when its finished!

6th May 2006, 01:05

minter - been waiting a while for this!

Was the C2 head an alright fit?

6th May 2006, 01:21

7k including the car is a bargin for a spec like that

how much work was invloved in finding and fitting the c2 head and is there much benefit in fitting it (even to a n/a vts?)

6th May 2006, 01:31

c2 head has better cooling and breathing, not to mention the inlet and exhaust valves are alot bigger so with cams you will get alot more power, its just like having a ported big valve head.

6th May 2006, 01:41

so is it a pain in the arse to fit then?

might look into doing it if it decide to keep and tune the saxo

6th May 2006, 02:16

straight fitment to vts bottom end, you do however have to drill and tap the head to fit the vts inlet as the holes dont line up.

6th May 2006, 02:42

Get some pics/vids up of this beast. Sounds mint.

6th May 2006, 11:28

when i see this motor im going to bow down or salute you. one hell of a beast there

6th May 2006, 22:23

is it cheaper to do it this way then to do the standard head than ratty,does alternator have to be moved at all(i just heard it did)

6th May 2006, 23:14

Hey Ratty got to questions for you if you dont mind answering?
1. Why have you used c2 vts engine and saxo inlet?
2.Have you designed the turbo set up yourself?

awsome spec by the way thinking of comeing to FCS just to see the her!
cheers nik

7th May 2006, 01:30

like everyone has said mate, sounds like a very impressive motor. i hope it all runs well for you mate. looking forward to seeing the graph and vehcile if you make it to FCS.

Good luck

7th May 2006, 07:23

That is one hella nice spec going on there mate, look forward to the finished product! omg....its gonna fly!

7th May 2006, 14:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikstar

Hey Ratty got to questions for you if you dont mind answering?
1. Why have you used c2 vts engine and saxo inlet?
2.Have you designed the turbo set up yourself?

awsome spec by the way thinking of comeing to FCS just to see the her!
cheers nik

1. C2 vts head has larger valves, better cooling, better breathing so ive gained better flow on the turbo and the head is much better than the saxo vts head (well the whole c2 engine is better than the saxo engine but i couldnt be arsed to swap my forged pistons over).

The C2 inlet has a motorised throttle body which is not compatible with my ecu (or most aftermarket unless you get a 2k motec) therefore to have a throttle I need to put the saxo inlet on, most people who use the c2 head for throttle bodies or turbos do this.

2. Yes

7th May 2006, 15:25

would you consider doing this to my car ratty,i take it its cheaper than doing the vts head?

7th May 2006, 16:54

if you get the parts ill do the work

7th May 2006, 17:53

how long will the job take,and how much will it cost?what parts will i need?

7th May 2006, 23:39

depends what you want, pm me what you want and ill tell you.

8th May 2006, 00:53

what a car i well want it

6th June 2006, 01:59

Ratty whens your beast gona be on the road?

6th June 2006, 20:16

fukin hell ratty

i take it its gunna be a petrol guzzler

lmao

is the engine at a stage where it starts etc yet?

6th June 2006, 20:37

ive started it but got a wiring prob or crank sensor prob causing it to run on 3, just bought a laptop so i can diagnose what it is, but once it runs properly its practically done.

6th June 2006, 21:59

cooooool

any ideas on the power it will have? 200+ bhp at least?

6th June 2006, 22:00

I want to see the shell this engine's in...

8th June 2006, 02:33

awesome car ratty! well impressed! no expense spared by the look of the spec!

14th June 2006, 13:06

Very nice indeed, what sort of gains are you hoping for mate?

14th June 2006, 15:32

any pics or more info yet mate?

14th June 2006, 16:18

that spec makes me wanna keep my saxo instead of sellin it...wow !!

14th June 2006, 16:25

OMFG!!! that is one hell of a spec :thumbup:

Just hurry up and get the pics on the go

14th June 2006, 16:32

nice ratty, think you need a fold out garage from the boot to lock it up wherever you go

ps thanks for the help on pm's i sent ya :Y:

14th June 2006, 16:54

Thats a complete monster :thumbup:

I can see you starting a trend with the C2 head conversion, I cant wait to see the pics.

I'm well jealous.

15th June 2006, 04:02

jeeeez, gotta have a real ''road killer'' m8! post pics so we can have an idea what it can look like hehe!

22nd July 2006, 15:04

Damn, no pics.. I want to see pics now!!

That spec gives me the horn

22nd July 2006, 15:23

Finally man too can experience a multiple orgasm! Sounds awesome Ratty, always wondered what you must be running in your car.

Im looking to do an engine conversion spring next year, if you want some work ill pay you well.

22nd July 2006, 16:35

its all for sale guys see the forsale section

23rd July 2006, 01:05

sadly tis true, get your bids in people!