Vtr or Vts conversion?

1. cloke Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Barnstaple/Devon Posts: 1503 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS Lusso

   #1 15th September 2010, 21:37

   I know this has been covered a million times before but couldn't find nowt.
   Would I be better off converting to a vts engine or a vtr engine, not just in terms of power but in running costs, insurance, ease of fitting etc also I've noticed, 8v parts are a lot cheaper than 16v parts :s all help would be appreciated.
   Cheers
   Cloke
2. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #2 15th September 2010, 22:26

   8v parts are cheaper because no body wants them lol
   
   well i think it goes with out saying
   
   vts=BETTER
   
   vtr=the poor mans vts
   
   so basically vtr for low running costs, vts for power, which im sure you already knew so seams like a pointless thread...
   
   and in terms of fitting its exactly the same, the vts just has a bigger head to accommodate the extra cam, the only difference in fitting if your getting picky is that vts engine have a fuel return which most vtrs dont have which requires plumbing in, or you can do what i do and plenty others do which is to just block it off lol
3. cloke Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Barnstaple/Devon Posts: 1503 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS Lusso

   #3 15th September 2010, 22:32

   What would you suggest as I'm only 20 with 2yrs ncb(in nov)? Or should I just buy a vtr/s? Much insurance difference??
4. huricane Established Member Joined: Feb 2010 cardiff Posts: 1414 saxo Vtr

   #4 15th September 2010, 22:34

   i thinks this is going to be a fail thread
5. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #5 15th September 2010, 22:42

   well theres a massive difference in insurance the vtr is group7 and the vts is group14 cant really get much more of a difference lol
   
   at 20 yrs old its gonna be expensive enough to just insure a vtr! lol so id stick to buying a vtr, unless you can get the parts cheap enough and fit it all your self then just do the conversion
6. cloke Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Barnstaple/Devon Posts: 1503 Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 TS Lusso

   #6 15th September 2010, 22:43

   Reckon il just buy a vtr, would probs be a lot easier for me, cheers for the help mate.
7. Bensvts Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts

   #7 15th September 2010, 22:48

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by cloke What would you suggest as I'm only 20 with 2yrs ncb(in nov)? Or should I just buy a vtr/s? Much insurance difference??

   Up to you, i got a vts when i just turned 19 with 2 claims against me. payed £2000 for insurance, you just have to battle it out and go for the vts when you know your going to have to pay more on everything or get the cheaper (slower) vtr, down to you.
8. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #8 15th September 2010, 22:50

   its alright, jsut stick with the vtr, also if you just buy a vtr first of all its a lot less hassle, and if its all standard, whereas if you convert your flat arch to a vtr then there there countless things that can go wrong after the conversion plus you dont get your vtr interior/body kit etc