furio same spec as vtr

1. iowracer L-plater Joined: Nov 2009 isle of wight Posts: 94 mk1 fiesta s.s 106 gti rs2000 escort van fiesta

   #1 21st September 2010, 14:02

   i know its prob. been covered before but i cant find a decent answer.
   
   will the silver top vtr inlet system fit the furio? im sure somewhere i have read you can as long as you fit the ecu from the vtr aswel.
   is the engine all the same apart from the inlet then? and will it get 98bhp with the simple swap of inlet?
2. Lewis1600 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2009 Los Anglesey Posts: 3416 Ibiza Sport TDI / MK1 VTS

   #2 21st September 2010, 14:38

   I dont think it would be 98bhp but I think it will be a bit more than standard...
3. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #3 21st September 2010, 14:43

   different size engine, DONT use the vtr ecu, inlet etc fit but may be a fanny on with plugs etc, slight if even noticeble at all increase in power
4. lharrowing Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2008 norwich Posts: 941 Citroen Saxo Westcoast MK1

   #4 21st September 2010, 14:44

   i have also heard that fitting th head with all parts inclusive it increases the furio/westcoasts power but not 100% on this.
5. Paulp Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE

   #5 21st September 2010, 14:49

   Changing the inlet to a vtr one isn't going to give you 23bhp no.
6. baker556 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 127.0.0.1 Posts: 4826 oem+ sax

   #6 21st September 2010, 14:50

   i've done it, well i've fitted a vtr inlet on my furio, it does feel quicker and nippier when overtaking in 2nd etc its much more responsive. A very good mod.
7. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

   #7 21st September 2010, 16:56

   not buy a ralye inlet and tb?
8. sudds Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Leeds Posts: 105 S2 Pugeot 106 Rallye, 2003 Pugeot 106 Quicksilver

   #8 21st September 2010, 17:07

   However, S1 Rallye head, inlet, cam and ecu however will give you around 110 with breathing mod's
9. iowracer L-plater Joined: Nov 2009 isle of wight Posts: 94 mk1 fiesta s.s 106 gti rs2000 escort van fiesta

   #9 21st September 2010, 18:24

   ill just buy anther gti and pay extra for insurance. one more question. why is vts insurance more then 106 gti? same engine and car rele
10. sudds Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Leeds Posts: 105 S2 Pugeot 106 Rallye, 2003 Pugeot 106 Quicksilver

    #10 21st September 2010, 18:45

    most likely because statistically the vts driver is more likely to have an accedent.
11. Morgzc Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Colchester/Coventry Posts: 2809 92 Mx5

    #11 21st September 2010, 18:59

    Citroen did their tests differently to Peugeot which made the vts appear faster on paper and every chav that has ever existed has atleast owned and then subsequently crashed a saxo.
12. baker556 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 127.0.0.1 Posts: 4826 oem+ sax

    #12 21st September 2010, 19:22

    Mate all you need is a vtr inlet with all the sensors and your ready, just bolt on and play.
    
    A raylle inlet is more expensive and as no one else has fitted it to a furio i opted for a VTR inlet as it had be trailed..
    
    Vts 935Kg
    GTI 950Kg
13. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #13 21st September 2010, 21:55

    plenty ppl have fitted rallye inlets to furios
14. robut Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 South Wales Posts: 282 '00 Furio 16v

    #14 22nd September 2010, 00:12

    I have an Xsi head that would fit nicely!
15. Pyro-Adam Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 227 Icelandic Grey VTR

    #15 22nd September 2010, 01:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iowracer i know its prob. been covered before but i cant find a decent answer. will the silver top vtr inlet system fit the furio? im sure somewhere i have read you can as long as you fit the ecu from the vtr aswel. is the engine all the same apart from the inlet then? and will it get 98bhp with the simple swap of inlet?

    Your right in thinking that you would get gains but the furio is a 1.4 and the VTR is a 1.6 so the gains are going to be a lot less than you think.
16. baker556 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 127.0.0.1 Posts: 4826 oem+ sax

    #16 22nd September 2010, 01:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 plenty ppl have fitted rallye inlets to furios

    who????
17. user_37998 L-plater Joined: Oct 2009 Shropshire Posts: 66 Mk2 Saxo VTS, Mk2 Saxo VTR

    #17 23rd September 2010, 01:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Morgzc Citroen did their tests differently to Peugeot which made the vts appear faster on paper and every chav that has ever existed has atleast owned and then subsequently crashed a saxo.

    haha true! hate that saxos have such a bad name, first thing people say when you say ive got a saxo vtr is 'CHAV'.
18. kc-saxo Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 Edinburgh Posts: 1671 Mk2 VTR

    #18 23rd September 2010, 01:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ReeceVTS haha true! hate that saxos have such a bad name, first thing people say when you say ive got a saxo vtr is 'CHAV'.

    most of the people that have said that to me own Corsa Bs, which are worse plus my VTR would shit all over their crappy 1.4 16v
19. EwynSaxo Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 Penpedairheol/Cascade/Bargoed Posts: 2104 Furio R.I.P, onyx Gti, astra turbo

    #19 23rd September 2010, 06:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kc-saxo most of the people that have said that to me own Corsa Bs, which are worse plus my VTR would shit all over their crappy 1.4 16v

    
    
    I should hope so too, if any corsa went around me that wasnt red top i'd consider selling up
20. sudds Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Leeds Posts: 105 S2 Pugeot 106 Rallye, 2003 Pugeot 106 Quicksilver

    #20 23rd September 2010, 07:11

    I saw 115 break from my old quicksilver (same engine as furio) all I did was Rallye inlet, rallye head + cams with a good skim to lower compression, 4-2-1, Decat. Rallye ecu and cold air induction. For 300 quid, and it did keep up with vts's. Iv fitted the inlet to my s2 rallye with breathing mods and a standard vts/gti cant touch it. That inlet is very well designed, by far the best except the dp one, which is nearly as good as having bodies, but thats 800 Euro and would need a remap.
21. sudds Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Leeds Posts: 105 S2 Pugeot 106 Rallye, 2003 Pugeot 106 Quicksilver

    #21 23rd September 2010, 07:12

    Cam sorry, can I edit my own posts on here, I cant see where.
22. AdamPug Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 middlesbrough Posts: 122 Vauxhall Corsa 1.2 16v

    #22 23rd September 2010, 12:38

    sounds like a nice little mod u done there sudds bet that was fun to drive
23. baker556 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 127.0.0.1 Posts: 4826 oem+ sax

    #23 24th September 2010, 12:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sudds I saw 115 break from my old quicksilver (same engine as furio) all I did was Rallye inlet, rallye head + cams with a good skim to lower compression, 4-2-1, Decat. Rallye ecu and cold air induction. For 300 quid, and it did keep up with vts's. Iv fitted the inlet to my s2 rallye with breathing mods and a standard vts/gti cant touch it. That inlet is very well designed, by far the best except the dp one, which is nearly as good as having bodies, but thats 800 Euro and would need a remap.

    Do you have a rolling road/dyno print out to prove this as its hard to believe 40bhp from that work, not saying its bull.
    
    What cam did you fit? Just a standard rallye ecu?