Help required for new saxo vtr 1997 owner and new member

1. NickWard Newbie Joined: Sep 2010 huddersfield Posts: 22 Saxo VTR 1.6 1997

   #1 24th September 2010, 20:39

   Hi All
   
   Had mot today and failed on 2 bulbs and emissions. had new cat fitted and now passed MOT
   
   Bit concerned about advisory notes on mot - overheating due to fan not working
   and blue smoke from exhaust on acceleration.
   
   Is replacing the fan a big job and costly and anybody any ideas about the blue smoke.
   
   Had oil change last week and gearbox oil change today
   
   Ay help would be appreciated
   
   Cheers
2. Woody91 Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Coseley, West Mids Posts: 1267 306 D-Turbo

   #2 24th September 2010, 21:05

   Blue smoke is usually the engine burning oil so you may have oil getting into the cylinder and could probably do the fan yourself if you have the tools.
3. yetisvtr Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 milton keynes Posts: 334 saxo mk1 vtr in posssiiiii blue

   #3 25th September 2010, 02:35

   so by the sounds of it your engine is slowly on the way out.
   the fan is probably not working as the thermo switch might not be working which tells the fan when to turn on.i think its the blue sensor on the rad if im not mistaken? or could even be simple as a fuse.
4. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

   #4 25th September 2010, 10:43

   If oil is getting into the cylinders and burning with the mixture it could mean the piston rings are fried.
   
   Do you have to top it up with oil regularly?
5. Carlvtr88 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2009 Birmingham Posts: 5801 1.1 106 XN Time, MK2 VTR 01. Ford Focus ST3 CP320

   #5 25th September 2010, 10:45

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by devilsadvocate If oil is getting into the cylinders and burning with the mixture it could mean the piston rings are fried. Do you have to top it up with oil regularly?

   its not a good sign is it really ?
6. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

   #6 25th September 2010, 11:05

   Not really no lol
   It could be a whole host of things but I had a Furio a few years back that was pummeling out blue smoke and using 1litre of oil every few weeks
   Ended up scrapping it as it wasnt worth getting it fixed
   
   If you have a decent saxo, say worth over a grand with MOT and low miles etc, it may be worth getting it fixed
   Im assuming it would be removing the head, fitting new rings and reassembling.
   
   As I said thou, it may not be that
7. NickWard Newbie Joined: Sep 2010 huddersfield Posts: 22 Saxo VTR 1.6 1997

   #7 25th September 2010, 18:56

   Bloody hell
   
   Had the VTR for a week so far had the following done
   
   Rear Break pads
   Exhaust bent as was catching
   Oil change
   Gearbox oil change
   New cat
   System bled after overheating
   new thermostat
   Locking wheel nuts drilled
   
   Today went over large pothole and bang engine cut out.............fuel cut off and didnt know you could just sort via that little black thing in the engine bay
   
   I have worked out how to solve the rattles- bought a more powerful stereo
   
   Its a blast
8. SR91 L-plater Joined: Jun 2010 Preston Posts: 88 Track Saxo VTS

   #8 26th September 2010, 00:00

   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-RADIATOR-F...item35abb2f6c2
   
   Should sort the fan, it screws into the top right of your radiator. As for the blue smoke, give the car a service with a thick oil and see if it helps? Could be anything like piston rings as mentioned or valve stem seals etc...
9. Dan1989 Newbie Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 3

   #9 26th September 2010, 11:49

   I have the same problem with my Mk1 1997, Alot of blue smoke, I was advised it was the valve stem seals. This is due to a life of being raced and rally'd. I gave mine a full service with a oil change too, and used some high performace thick oil to withstand the temperature. Since has been running really well. Another thing you could try is, 'stop smoke' this is a substance like oil, which you add straight into the oil which helps swell up the valves.
   
   Hope this helps.
   
   Dan
10. NickWard Newbie Joined: Sep 2010 huddersfield Posts: 22 Saxo VTR 1.6 1997

    #10 26th September 2010, 21:12

    Cheers guys thanks for all the advice will let you know how it goes
11. huricane Established Member Joined: Feb 2010 cardiff Posts: 1414 saxo Vtr

    #11 28th September 2010, 04:29

    does this "stop smoke" stuff really work as i got some smoke coming out off my vtr but it's white and it only on start up or when it cold
    
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Wynns-Stop-Smo...item2c5111fb1e
12. NickWard Newbie Joined: Sep 2010 huddersfield Posts: 22 Saxo VTR 1.6 1997

    #12 28th September 2010, 10:24

    Hi Mate,
    
    My smoke turned from blue to white on startup..........put some stop smoke in and then 30 minutes later overheating and pissing water and coolant
    
    Dont know whether this was related to the gunk i put in there
    
    But its back in the garage today
    
    Will let you know.
    
    I am fearing head gasket problem and possible death of vtr.