turbo kit

1. jimmyboy Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2010 North Yorkshire Posts: 744 V8 Vantage, Clio V6, 306 Rallye

   #1 28th September 2010, 13:08

   Hiya can someone please tell me if this turbo kit is OK for my vtr? It's probably a load of crap, but if it will work, even with a bit of messing aorund, it's gotta be worth it for £300.
   
   http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Citro...Q5fAccessories
   
   It looks like a universal kit but it could be made to fit right? I don't really know a lot about engines/turbos etc so could you remap the ecu? Or will a new one be needed?
   
   Sorry for all the questions just looking for a bit of advice thats all.
2. Jungle Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sheffield Posts: 1206 106 Rallye Turbo

   #2 28th September 2010, 13:14

   Theres already a thread on here about a basic turbo kit, i cant get on the link because im at work but no for 300 quid you cannot turbo a car
3. saxp L-plater Joined: Sep 2010 Birmingham-Sutton Posts: 72 Furio

   #3 28th September 2010, 13:14

   id be really interested in that aswell, it looks a bit to cheap though really!!
4. saxp L-plater Joined: Sep 2010 Birmingham-Sutton Posts: 72 Furio

   #4 28th September 2010, 13:15

   http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=127180 try here
5. jimmyboy Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2010 North Yorkshire Posts: 744 V8 Vantage, Clio V6, 306 Rallye

   #5 28th September 2010, 13:15

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Jungle Theres already a thread on here about a basic turbo kit, i cant get on the link because im at work but no for 300 quid you cannot turbo a car

   what else would you need thats not pictured in the kit though?
6. saxp L-plater Joined: Sep 2010 Birmingham-Sutton Posts: 72 Furio

   #6 28th September 2010, 13:17

   a car
7. saxp L-plater Joined: Sep 2010 Birmingham-Sutton Posts: 72 Furio

   #7 28th September 2010, 13:17

   it works out at £252.19 so it cant b any good lol
8. Jungle Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sheffield Posts: 1206 106 Rallye Turbo

   #8 28th September 2010, 13:18

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jimmyboy what else would you need thats not pictured in the kit though?

   i dont know i cant get on the link... look on that thread that someons linked you to... That is the very basics that you will need
9. jimmyboy Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2010 North Yorkshire Posts: 744 V8 Vantage, Clio V6, 306 Rallye

   #9 28th September 2010, 13:18

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by saxp it works out at £252.19 so it cant b any good lol

   he's sold a few before and got good feedback on them all.
10. saxp L-plater Joined: Sep 2010 Birmingham-Sutton Posts: 72 Furio

    #10 28th September 2010, 13:21

    to be fair i dont care about massive boosts on my car lol all i want is a dump valve lmao and at a cheap price like that then all is good, its just fitting is going to rape you people will probably charge a fortune to fit it, people have gave him good feedback but how many have actually fitted them?
    
    And will he post to the uk?
11. jimmyboy Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2010 North Yorkshire Posts: 744 V8 Vantage, Clio V6, 306 Rallye

    #11 28th September 2010, 13:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxp to be fair i dont care about massive boosts on my car lol all i want is a dump valve lmao and at a cheap price like that then all is good, its just fitting is going to rape you people will probably charge a fortune to fit it, people have gave him good feedback but how many have actually fitted them? And will he post to the uk?

    Good point but someone would of left negative feedback if they were really that bad.
    
    I got a friend whos a mechanic that would fit it for me. It' his fault i want turbo anyway after he put one on his car.
12. Jungle Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sheffield Posts: 1206 106 Rallye Turbo

    #12 28th September 2010, 13:26

    read the link!
13. jimmyboy Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2010 North Yorkshire Posts: 744 V8 Vantage, Clio V6, 306 Rallye

    #13 28th September 2010, 13:27

    what about it?
14. jimmyboy Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2010 North Yorkshire Posts: 744 V8 Vantage, Clio V6, 306 Rallye

    #14 28th September 2010, 13:28

    oh the link you posted? I don't know what like half the stuff on that list is.
15. Jungle Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sheffield Posts: 1206 106 Rallye Turbo

    #15 28th September 2010, 13:29

    Does that turbo kit come with all of this?
    
    Adapter for the standard manifold to the turbo
    downpipe from the turbo
    oil feed line
    oil return line
    boss welded into the sump for the return
    Boost pipes
    Intercooler
    silicone hoses of various bends
    silicone vac hose for dump valve and boost gauges
    boost gauge
    dump valve
    2.5bar map sensor
    4 bigger injectors (use dastek and map sensor module to run this option)
    MF2 and sigcon (runs extra one or two injectors along side the oe 4 if not going for dastek option)
    
    The above is the basic "safe" list of what you want, obviously you will need to lower compression this can be done by either getting the thickest repair headgasket you can get or get a decompression plate. Budget around 2.5k for the above IF you can do ALOT of the work yourself, if not at least double it if going to a well established company.
16. jimmyboy Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2010 North Yorkshire Posts: 744 V8 Vantage, Clio V6, 306 Rallye

    #16 28th September 2010, 13:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jungle Does that turbo kit come with all of this? Adapter for the standard manifold to the turbo downpipe from the turbo oil feed line oil return line boss welded into the sump for the return Boost pipes Intercooler silicone hoses of various bends silicone vac hose for dump valve and boost gauges boost gauge dump valve 2.5bar map sensor 4 bigger injectors (use dastek and map sensor module to run this option) MF2 and sigcon (runs extra one or two injectors along side the oe 4 if not going for dastek option) The above is the basic "safe" list of what you want, obviously you will need to lower compression this can be done by either getting the thickest repair headgasket you can get or get a decompression plate. Budget around 2.5k for the above IF you can do ALOT of the work yourself, if not at least double it if going to a well established company.

    I don't think I wanna spend that much on a saxo lol.
17. Jungle Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sheffield Posts: 1206 106 Rallye Turbo

    #17 28th September 2010, 13:35

    But thats what you need to turbo it. This is what im getting at.
    
    That kit on ebay is just a shit turbo, intercooler some stainless pipe and a fan. You will still need injectors, fuel pump management etc etc etc....
    
    Put it this way, mines cost me roughly 2k so far at a guess and i did alot of work myself and used alot of second hand bits.
18. jimmyboy Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2010 North Yorkshire Posts: 744 V8 Vantage, Clio V6, 306 Rallye

    #18 28th September 2010, 13:37

    Yeah like I said I thought the kit might be a load of crap. Just thougt I'd ask the experts.
19. Jungle Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sheffield Posts: 1206 106 Rallye Turbo

    #19 28th September 2010, 13:42

    lol ok mate, well im not an expert at all but i can assure you that it is a load of crap
20. Lewis1600 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2009 Los Anglesey Posts: 3416 Ibiza Sport TDI / MK1 VTS

    #20 28th September 2010, 13:57

    I think the min you can go for turbo is £1000 thats with alot of mates rates and help....
    
    The ecu will cost as much as that kit... looks shit anyway... and that turbo probs couldnt handle more than 5psi lol
21. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #21 28th September 2010, 18:36

    It may be cheap but its not what I would call good value. That old saying is so true “buy cheap, buy twice”
22. vtr_immy Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2009 london Posts: 322 wicked red furio 2000

    #22 29th September 2010, 09:18

    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=293924
    
    check on there its my mates cheap turbo conversion he got everything done for around £600 - £700 including management the lot, in the end the car was crashed by his mate so the kit may be for sale, doesnt look tidy but it did the job
23. cliver L-plater Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 34

    #23 29th September 2010, 09:36

    perfect kit++
24. Cammy Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Aberdeen Posts: 2211

    #24 29th September 2010, 09:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jimmyboy I don't think I wanna spend that much on a saxo lol.

    You would if you drove something with boost lol
    
    Think about it, a car weighing 700-800kg with a turbo on it, compared to a car weighing 1.2 ton's with the turbo
    
    Sax would be faster with a turbo kit running a safe 170bhp compared to one weighing nearly double that with 220bhp or so
    
    I do like the boost kits that the audi TT comes with, as there fun to drive, the mini cooper S is also another car to be thinking about when it comes into the league of turbo hot hatches (and i beleive, correct me if im wrong... 180 bhp?)
25. Jungle Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sheffield Posts: 1206 106 Rallye Turbo

    #25 29th September 2010, 12:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by C18VTR You would if you drove something with boost lol Think about it, a car weighing 700-800kg with a turbo on it, compared to a car weighing 1.2 ton's with the turbo Sax would be faster with a turbo kit running a safe 170bhp compared to one weighing nearly double that with 220bhp or so I do like the boost kits that the audi TT comes with, as there fun to drive, the mini cooper S is also another car to be thinking about when it comes into the league of turbo hot hatches (and i beleive, correct me if im wrong... 180 bhp?)

    You forgot the best bit about a boosted car...
    
    
26. user_27114 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2008 jarraaaaaaaaaa Posts: 3580 Mk2 16v VTR + Nitrous

    #26 29th September 2010, 12:36

    1. It costs $239 to get delivered to the uk and I dont know if that includes import duties
    
    2. Its quality will be shite
    
    3. Its about half of what is needed
    
    quote from this 'Installation'
    
    "# There are no installation instructions included. The install is simple and most customers install it themselves in a weekend. If you cannot figure it out or feel uncomfortable with the installation, please have a professional assist.
    # Most of these parts are direct bolt-ons. Some are not.
    
    * The piping needs to be fitted up. Because of the bends and couplers included, it should be simple.
    * The T3 turbo flange needs to be welded to an adapter pipe or directly to the stock manifold.
    * To run this on a street car, the turbocharger down pipe will need to be connected to your existing exhaust. Expect to fabricate an adapter pipe or have an exhaust shop connect them."
    
    Prepare to waste your money...