VTR Modifications?

1. Goldy7 L-plater Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 89

   #1 29th September 2010, 21:32

   Hey all, tomorrow il be buying a 2000 ph1 Xsara VTR. Which i assume is the exact same engine from the Saxo vtr which has 90bhp.
   
   Im assuming all the specially made induction kits and 4-2-1 exhaust manifold etc will fit?
   
   Just looked on ebay and there is a turbo "kit" for the Saxo VTR. Would that fit? and run.
   
   Also if someone can direct me to the cheap easy bolt on modifications for a VTR engine id be greatful
2. user_38486 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Blackburn Posts: 4739 A few

   #2 29th September 2010, 21:39

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Goldy7 Hey all, tomorrow il be buying a 2000 ph1 Xsara VTR. Which i assume is the exact same engine from the Saxo vtr which has 90bhp. Im assuming all the specially made induction kits and 4-2-1 exhaust manifold etc will fit? Just looked on ebay and there is a turbo "kit" for the Saxo VTR. Would that fit? and run. Also if someone can direct me to the cheap easy bolt on modifications for a VTR engine id be greatful

   
   No such thing mate. you need to pay good money for worth while mods like cam, headwork, bodies etc.
   Even for a decent induction kit and a good 4-2-1 manifold you will need a few hundred quid
   turbo kit wil lmost likely be a "bolt on" job and shit but will run, although not too high boost with standard internals
3. Goldy7 L-plater Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 89

   #3 29th September 2010, 21:47

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by SAM-S44MDS- No such thing mate. you need to pay good money for worth while mods like cam, headwork, bodies etc. Even for a decent induction kit and a good 4-2-1 manifold you will need a few hundred quid turbo kit wil lmost likely be a "bolt on" job and shit but will run, although not too high boost with standard internals

   What sort of psi can standard crank and pistons handle?
4. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #4 29th September 2010, 21:51

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Goldy7 What sort of psi can standard crank and pistons handle?

   Most people stick to around 6psi ish iirc
5. user_38486 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Blackburn Posts: 4739 A few

   #5 29th September 2010, 21:57

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Saxo_vtr Most people stick to around 6psi ish iirc

   
   +1.
   Lad near me is running 6 on standard internals.
6. Goldy7 L-plater Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 89

   #6 29th September 2010, 22:02

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by SAM-S44MDS- +1. Lad near me is running 6 on standard internals.

   6psi is quite good, iv had alot of Rovers and an MG and most people run around 4psi on the K series.
   
   Would a T25 Garret run fine? Also can the standard manifold be easily adapted to take a turbo? Also what sort of changes would have to be made to run around 5-6 psi?
7. Goldy7 L-plater Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 89

   #7 29th September 2010, 22:46

   Also, what sort of increases do cams make?
8. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

   #8 29th September 2010, 22:59

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Goldy7 Would a T25 Garret run fine? Also can the standard manifold be easily adapted to take a turbo? Also what sort of changes would have to be made to run around 5-6 psi?

   Depend on the T25. Most can be used but they come in a variety of sizes/flow so really you want one closest to your engine. Probably a smaller frame turbo would be a better option for such a low boost application.
   
   As long as you can weld its relatively simple to adapt a turbo to the standard manifold. Just keep it as flat to the ground and as high as possible.
   
   There are a few threads on what you need but oil feed, oil drain, boost pipe, air filter, intercooler and some way of adding extra fuel. This will get you up and running. Really you would want some extra cooling for the engine like a oil cooler and an uprated clutch to take the extra energy.
9. Goldy7 L-plater Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 89

   #9 29th September 2010, 23:16

   Sounds like a plan, what sort of power figures are run from a turbo bolted straight on to a VTR engine?