this induction kit

1. dan_dan_the_saxo_man Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 England Posts: 574 1998 saxo 1.1 sx 2001 saxo vtr

   #1 8th October 2010, 19:32

   hi...just wondering if this induction fits a vtr
   
   mainly looking at the length of he bend.
   
   says i may need to modify slightly...and im guessing its to add to the bend.
   
   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Citroen-Saxo-V...item1c124aa716
   
   hope that link works ok.
   
   i have a similar or exact same system on my 1.1 and it works great.
2. Lewis Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Middlesbrough/Coventry Posts: 3808 Megane 225

   #2 8th October 2010, 20:47

   You would need a silicone pipe between the throttle body and the start of the chrome pipe to get it to fit
3. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #3 8th October 2010, 20:49

   those are shit and really make your car die, they get far too much air and hot air at that
4. dan_dan_the_saxo_man Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 England Posts: 574 1998 saxo 1.1 sx 2001 saxo vtr

   #4 8th October 2010, 21:46

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 those are shit and really make your car die, they get far too much air and hot air at that

   
   what do you suggest?
   
   for 35 quid or so it looks good.
   
   really dont wna go to the 150+ quid buiseness for an air filter lol
5. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #5 8th October 2010, 22:00

   i suggest an uprated panel filter for your standard airbox, best set up tbh, just run a god cold air feed to it, best bang for your buck, the only thing that daft open filter will do is make an noise, it will also make your car under perform
6. dan_dan_the_saxo_man Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 England Posts: 574 1998 saxo 1.1 sx 2001 saxo vtr

   #6 8th October 2010, 22:06

   whats the difference between this induction im showing and say like...idk a 160 quid green cotton thing i see being sold?
   
   the 1.1 had the same size cone i think and metal pipes etc. and i been running that for about 2 years and it seems faster.
   
   sorry if im misundterstanding anything.
7. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #7 8th October 2010, 22:30

   green cotton one will most probs have a better weave and induction pipe shape, and will have been sized to suit the engine etc, they get tested, these are just random cheaply made filters that are far too big for a saxo unless running a turbo or someting, belive me mate i hd a saxo with one on, went MUCH better when i removed it, mate recently bought one after i told him not too, hes just sold the saxo to me as he was sick of it, ive now put a standard back on and again it drives alot better, pulls alot harder
8. user_43359 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Shavington Crewe Posts: 828 MK2 Saxo VTR 51 PLATE

   #8 8th October 2010, 22:30

   with a 1.1 your better off just getting anysort of filter like that tbh, cos lets face it with a 1.1 your not looking for BHP gains just noise, and put the rest of your money to making it handle and brake better for some fun round the back lanes
9. dan_dan_the_saxo_man Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 England Posts: 574 1998 saxo 1.1 sx 2001 saxo vtr

   #9 8th October 2010, 22:39

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by H-Unwin with a 1.1 your better off just getting anysort of filter like that tbh, cos lets face it with a 1.1 your not looking for BHP gains just noise, and put the rest of your money to making it handle and brake better for some fun round the back lanes

   ye i suppose ur right lol...all i wanted to do was attract attention when shifting down a couple of cogs haha.
   
   but anyway
   
   
   at the moment this vtr of mine at the like, small-ish k&n induction...and the cone is battered. my dad said it seems to lag a bit and thinks its due to lack of air coming in?
10. dan_dan_the_saxo_man Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 England Posts: 574 1998 saxo 1.1 sx 2001 saxo vtr

    #10 8th October 2010, 22:42

    so...does the size of the cone not matter then?
    
    
    because compared to my 1.1....its like a 3rd smaller.
11. scottyr_VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Newcastle Posts: 114 Saxo VTR MK2 , Peugeot 106

    #11 8th October 2010, 22:54

    i used to have a big open cone on my 1.1 boy did it make a lot of noise but it was less powerful you could feel the differance and not in the good way
    
    scotty r
12. dan_dan_the_saxo_man Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 England Posts: 574 1998 saxo 1.1 sx 2001 saxo vtr

    #12 8th October 2010, 22:58

    right...sorry guys...ad ignorant as i am i've only just read the BIG INDUCTION guide.
    
    this kind is open air filter right? and only is for noise ye?
    
    so im looking for an enclosed kit?
    
    sorry im inexperienced with this.
    
    how can u tell if its enclosed or not? is enclosed the casing around the filter?
13. Goldy7 L-plater Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 89

    #13 8th October 2010, 23:11

    Enclosed is like a sealed pipe, like a BMC, you can get sealed Apiro air filters for around £50. The air intake i have got on my Xsara is, removed the oil breather from the intake pipe, and a 1.5m rubber pipe straight off the throttle body to the front of the bumper, who needs an air filter. Saxo engines aint hard to come by lol. Enclosed kits are good but are better on turbo engines tbf. An enclosed kit is just as good as a standard box with a cold air feed into it. Wrap the exhaust in heat wrap to keep the heat down and raise the bonnet around 15mm