Play in rear wheels

1. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

   #1 15th October 2010, 17:29

   So I had play, the bearings were leaking grease, had them replaced and all was well and good.
   
   Now, a month later I have the same degree of play in the rear hubs. The bearings are SKF ones and appear in perfect condition.
   
   The hub nuts were done up 'tight' with a bar but not torqued exactly. This will be my first port of call, and I'll torque them up properly.
   
   However, is there nay other reason why the hubs may have play? What's interesting is that I can get play if I wobble the wheel at 90 degrees to the trailing arm (so at about 10 past 8), however parallel to the arm I get none (at about 10 to 5)
   
   Could it be the radius arm bearings, or the stub pins?
2. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #2 15th October 2010, 17:37

   Possible mate. How bad is the play would you say, how long has it been like that? Did you only notice it a month later after new bearings or was it like that previously to that. Checked tyre wear?
3. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

   #3 16th October 2010, 00:14

   Just to be clear, it was the wheel bearings that I replaced.
   
   It seemed the play had gone when I replaced them, hell, I even ran a spare set of drums for a fortnight and they seemed solid.
   
   AFAIK when the brand spankers went on the play was gone, and now it's back. Odd.
   
   I havn't checked the tyre wear, although I didn't notice it being obviously uneven
4. PhillipM Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Rotherham Posts: 82

   #4 16th October 2010, 00:20

   I'd definately see what the torque level is first, if you've overtorqued them to start with you could have deformed the bearings and they've now worn a groove and slackened off.
5. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

   #5 16th October 2010, 00:45

   If that's happened I take it the stub pin is ready for the bin then too?
   
   I doubt I've over tightened them, they're rated at 120Nm IIRC, but my torque wrench is in the post
6. PhillipM Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Rotherham Posts: 82

   #6 16th October 2010, 01:05

   :lol:
   
   I would think if the arm bearings are gone enough to feel it up and down you should be able to feel the arm shift slightly in and out too, given the leverage you have.
7. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

   #7 16th October 2010, 11:45

   wear of tyre?
8. burgerfeet Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 Bridgend Posts: 231 VTS 2002 - well the Mrs does

   #8 16th October 2010, 12:22

   120Nm....I believe it to be 200Nm. To loose is as bad as too tight.
9. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

   #9 16th October 2010, 16:17

   Haynes says 245Nm front and 140Nm back
   
   Tyres are 6 months old.
10. burgerfeet Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 Bridgend Posts: 231 VTS 2002 - well the Mrs does

    #10 16th October 2010, 17:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mikol Haynes says 245Nm front and 140Nm back Tyres are 6 months old.

    Factory manual says 200Nm as does Autodata for the rear. In the trade most of us avoid Haynes like the plague especially with torque settings.
11. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

    #11 16th October 2010, 17:35

    Remember this is poverty spec drums not a VT* disc hub, is that torque for them?
12. burgerfeet Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 Bridgend Posts: 231 VTS 2002 - well the Mrs does

    #12 16th October 2010, 18:54

    It is the same for all according to the data.