Powerflex the anti-roll bar...Worth it? + Griffiths quick shift

1. brosnan Established Member Joined: May 2008 Kent Posts: 1127 BMW X5 4.4 PETROL

   #1 17th October 2010, 18:43

   I want the best possible handling,
   got strut brace lowered etc
   thinking of better bushes
   
   but will they make noticable difference?
   
   also what size 21-22mm?
   
   01 mk2 vts
   
   Also is it worth getting a griffiths quick shift (cheap and simple)? who got one?
   
   thanks guys
2. user_37194 Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 rotherham Posts: 1832 Be scirocco, full on 03plate track spec Saxo

   #2 17th October 2010, 18:59

   if you wont the best handling, you need better shocks and springs bigger torsion bars, bigger rear arb ect... but tht added up to over 1k propz... if you just wont few basics go for polyrace bushs all round.
   
   powerflex bush are bit shit to be fair i bought the arb ones as polyrace dont sell them get polyrace for what ever you can as there better and cheaper
   
   mark
3. brosnan Established Member Joined: May 2008 Kent Posts: 1127 BMW X5 4.4 PETROL

   #3 17th October 2010, 19:28

   Great thanks for advice mate, will do bushes all round, i got spax shocks n springs.
   where can i get hold arb bushes that you recommend?
4. 3cott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts

   #4 17th October 2010, 19:52

   Get a lower brace aswell
5. user_37194 Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 rotherham Posts: 1832 Be scirocco, full on 03plate track spec Saxo

   #5 17th October 2010, 20:01

   take your pick mate.
   
   http://www.kamracing.co.uk/index.php...es-mounts.html
   
   as far as am aware theres only powerflex that make arb bushs. get some bushes for rear axle and whishbones ect be good then
6. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

   #6 17th October 2010, 20:07

   Floflex offer a lower priced bush.
   
   ARB bushes imo should only be uprated if the standards are knackard as i don't think they really do alot
7. brosnan Established Member Joined: May 2008 Kent Posts: 1127 BMW X5 4.4 PETROL

   #7 17th October 2010, 20:45

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by 3cott Get a lower brace aswell

   I was going to but i go over about 8 speed bumps just on the way to work everyday...then back again!!!
8. monka Established Member Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1368

   #8 17th October 2010, 21:30

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by mark1311 if you wont the best handling, you need better shocks and springs bigger torsion bars, bigger rear arb ect... but tht added up to over 1k propz... if you just wont few basics go for polyrace bushs all round. powerflex bush are bit shit to be fair i bought the arb ones as polyrace dont sell them get polyrace for what ever you can as there better and cheaper mark

   its not just a case of bigger this bigger that though
   
   its what you want out of your, what your driving style is and how you want it to handle.
   
   if ya want it to oversteer, yeah stiffen the front a little, and add bigger rear torsion bar, bigger rear anti roll bar and stiffer rear shocks.
   
   if ya want a more understeer/neutral steering, stiffer front end softer rear end set up.
9. user_37194 Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 rotherham Posts: 1832 Be scirocco, full on 03plate track spec Saxo

   #9 17th October 2010, 21:56

   he says he wonts the best possible handling, to get that you would need to have a good firm set up.
10. monka Established Member Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1368

    #10 18th October 2010, 00:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mark1311 he says he wonts the best possible handling, to get that you would need to have a good firm set up.

    yeah, but in proportion telling some one to just go and get a bigger this and bigger that with out telling them the handling effects isnt a good thing.
    
    what happens when he doesnt buy front springs, then on ebay or something spots some thicker rear antiroll bars and torsion bars, comes up to the first corner quickly and he'll be coming out backwards.
    
    like i said, driving style counts as well when you 'best possible handling'. my old starlet had a very stiff front end, with and even stiffer rear end, and i loved throwing it round tracks with a bit of oversteer, i changed the rear springs once and didnt like it all, where as a mate of mine who often took mine out on track if he was there as well said he found it easier to drive with softer rear springs.
11. brosnan Established Member Joined: May 2008 Kent Posts: 1127 BMW X5 4.4 PETROL

    #11 18th October 2010, 19:25

    Is all good info guys cheer... I gonna powerflex right up, then see how i get on with that...
12. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

    #12 18th October 2010, 19:29

    Get floflex
13. 3cott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts

    #13 18th October 2010, 20:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by brosnan I was going to but i go over about 8 speed bumps just on the way to work everyday...then back again!!!

    If your down 40mm you shoul be ok
14. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

    #14 18th October 2010, 20:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 3cott If your down 40mm you shoul be ok

    If oyu're down 60mm you'll be fine too, it's all about skeeels!
15. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #15 18th October 2010, 22:32

    Wouldnt bother with the Griffiths quick shift either. On mine and others ive used it felt too clunky and made the gears feel out of place, same goes for the compbrake again it feels really clunky and horrible to use. Only one id get is the B&M qucikshift, costs abit more but feels hell of alot better, just like a normal gear selection but shorter. Personally, i wouldnt bother with a quickshift at all.

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16. brosnan Established Member Joined: May 2008 Kent Posts: 1127 BMW X5 4.4 PETROL

    #16 19th October 2010, 20:08

    cheers guys, I gonna flex up, then sort shifting out next month