MOT rear beam pg2

29th October 2010, 12:01

Right.... did a drive to stansted airport and back carrying an heavy/average load of people and luggage. ON the way up there the driverside rear wheel was rubbing like fuck and I just thought it was doing because it was low (due to the weight).

Dropped them off and it was still doing, probably worse. so when I got home took the wheel off and noticed it had been rubbing on the inner arch, QUALITY

Checked the otherside and its fine, checked for play in the arms and its slight but nothing I thought I would have to worry about.

first off, do I need a new rear axle, or rear beam.

searched and found that IM axles are pretty good at supplying, any information to share?

29th October 2010, 12:05

Yes mate replace the rear beam.

You can alternativly get the bearings for about £40-45 a side.

29th October 2010, 12:07

I would get a rear beam complete bar the brakes / rear hubs, then just swap over.

29th October 2010, 12:43

yer getting one tomorrow for a £100, they easy to fit?

apparantly its just 6 bolts?

29th October 2010, 14:18

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Originally Posted by Jordy6969

yer getting one tomorrow for a £100, they easy to fit?

apparantly its just 6 bolts?

yeah they not that hard to do mate- its 4bolts to achaully remove the rear beam ,2 either end of the beam- although you gotta undo brake pipes ect.... its pretty straight forward- although id advise 2 people on doing it as beam is pretty heavy

29th October 2010, 19:13

they are easy if theres two of you its very hard work if you do it your self trust me.

29th October 2010, 19:18

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Originally Posted by shannon6460

they are easy if theres two of you its very hard work if you do it your self trust me.

yeah definetly need 2 people to do this- bet it would hurt a little if a beam was to fall on your head lol

29th October 2010, 19:20

Where are you getting one for £100?

I recently fitted a refurb one to mine by myself, wasnt too hard tbh.

First you need to disconnect the handbrake cables, do this by slackening the cable via the bolt under the exhaust heatshield, then taking them away from the rear calipers.

Undo the brake lines that go under the beam, noting how they ran.

Then you can drop the beam by undoing the 4 bolts from inside.

31st October 2010, 18:03

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Originally Posted by chris_furio

Where are you getting one for £100?

From the aerodrome car breakers, along the a249 just just before detlin hill!

Its in really good nick so just going to get it on this week

31st October 2010, 18:06

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Originally Posted by Jordy6969

From the aerodrome car breakers, along the a249 just just before detlin hill!

Its in really good nick so just going to get it on this week

I doubt it will last long though. If i bought another Saxo i'd 100% be sticking an IM Axle on it. Would never trust a scrap yard job again. Saxo's are just that age now where they're all pretty knackered.

31st October 2010, 18:36

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Originally Posted by CHIP

I doubt it will last long though. If i bought another Saxo i'd 100% be sticking an IM Axle on it. Would never trust a scrap yard job again. Saxo's are just that age now where they're all pretty knackered.

Yer but fact of the matter is... I don't wanna pay almost a third of the cars value on a rear axle. It might be worth it but at the end of the day, you said it yourself, its a saxo

31st October 2010, 18:39

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Originally Posted by Jordy6969

Yer but fact of the matter is... I don't wanna pay almost a third of the cars value on a rear axle. It might be worth it but at the end of the day, you said it yourself, its a saxo

alot easier to get a refurb beam fitted once than loads of second hand beams fitted every 2 weeks couse they fuk up or are already fkd.

31st October 2010, 18:53

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Originally Posted by db_sax

alot easier to get a refurb beam fitted once than loads of second hand beams fitted every 2 weeks couse they fuk up or are already fkd.

This beam ive bought isn't bad though

ive got a 30 day guarantee, its not been lowered and came off a 53 plate vtr. Rather not spend £300 odd quid, Just havent got that sort of money.

31st October 2010, 18:54

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Originally Posted by Jordy6969

This beam ive bought isn't bad though

ive got a 30 day guarantee, its not been lowered and came off a 53 plate vtr. Rather not spend £300 odd quid, Just havent got that sort of money.

hopefully it will have been lowered properly and wont collapse a few days after the warrenty runs out

31st October 2010, 20:35

i was in the same situation- last year my beam collapsed and i had no money at all manage to scrape up one from the scrappy , can say it lasted a whole month before it also f**ked up, and ended up going to IM AXLES in the end- spend alot of time sorting this out and should of gone straight to IM AXLES can recommend them 100%

1st November 2010, 10:59

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Originally Posted by adam19

i was in the same situation- last year my beam collapsed and i had no money at all manage to scrape up one from the scrappy , can say it lasted a whole month before it also f**ked up, and ended up going to IM AXLES in the end- spend alot of time sorting this out and should of gone straight to IM AXLES can recommend them 100%

How much was the beam you bought?

1st November 2010, 16:25

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Originally Posted by Jordy6969

How much was the beam you bought?

2nd hand one from scrappy £120

and think it was £375 from im axle but they take 25pound off if you was to give them your knackered beam well worth it as basically its a new beam with new pins ect... but the beam you could get from a scrappy could be like 7-10 years old ect... and god knows how much abuse its had over them years... if your keeping the car then id def go im axle but if you was thinking about getting rid of the car then scrappy one should hold out for a month lol, but you never know it could be a decent one but thats a risk you`d end up taking like i did and backc fired lol

1st November 2010, 17:28

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Originally Posted by adam19

2nd hand one from scrappy £120

and think it was £375 from im axle but they take 25pound off if you was to give them your knackered beam well worth it as basically its a new beam with new pins ect... but the beam you could get from a scrappy could be like 7-10 years old ect... and god knows how much abuse its had over them years... if your keeping the car then id def go im axle but if you was thinking about getting rid of the car then scrappy one should hold out for a month lol, but you never know it could be a decent one but thats a risk you`d end up taking like i did and backc fired lol

Yer hopefully I get lucky, this one doesnt look too bad tbh so hopefully all works out for me

2nd November 2010, 13:46

i got a good beam from the local scrappy 2 years ago, and its still going strong today, but i havent had it lowerd stupilyy low or anything like that just 25mm with apex dampers. but scrappy axels arent all good, ive heard a few storys on shit buys aswell.

2nd November 2010, 13:51

yeh it all depends on the car you take it from, id say go for a fairly standard looking one cause chances are it wont be in there cause the rear beams knackered will just be an MOt fail. Rather than a modded one thats been lowered cause the beam on it might have had a bit of torture

2nd November 2010, 20:30

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Originally Posted by adam19

2nd hand one from scrappy £120

and think it was £375 from im axle but they take 25pound off if you was to give them your knackered beam well worth it as basically its a new beam with new pins ect... but the beam you could get from a scrappy could be like 7-10 years old ect... and god knows how much abuse its had over them years... if your keeping the car then id def go im axle but if you was thinking about getting rid of the car then scrappy one should hold out for a month lol, but you never know it could be a decent one but thats a risk you`d end up taking like i did and backc fired lol

Erm good deal? They take ur old beam pull out the pins put some new ones in paint it put new pin bearings etc on it and sell it someone else for £350 Id rather buy a hydrolic ram and do it myself

! That said I know they do a good job but £350 is alot of money for a refurbished beam imho.

2nd November 2010, 20:34

you get a years warranty and there a very reputable company

2nd November 2010, 20:41

I know they are Im not saying they don't do a good job I'm simply saying £350 is alot for a recon beam.

What I would pay for tho is an alternative to the badly designed rear axle!

7th November 2010, 19:45

yeh id pay £350 to get the whole rear end done with something abit more reliable

8th November 2010, 15:15

Right... as you know I bought a beam from the breakers fitted it for a cost of £150 at the garage. As I'm driving home I notice I've got the same rattliy noise as I did before I changed it, not the rear wheel rubbing against the inner arch but something touching eachother everytime I go over a slight hill, however doesnt do it on speed bumps etc,

I was thinking could this be the wheel bearing or anything else other than the rear axle?

8th November 2010, 21:14

want some pins for your axle?
we have them made to same spec as original
£35 per side
see the website

8th November 2010, 21:34

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Originally Posted by Jordy6969

I was thinking could this be the wheel bearing

Pretty quick and easy to check if a wheel bearing is gone anyway, sure its not another dodgy rear axle?

10th November 2010, 17:23

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Originally Posted by johnr32

Pretty quick and easy to check if a wheel bearing is gone anyway, sure its not another dodgy rear axle?

how do you check matey? hope not because I really haven't got the money to change one over again

18th January 2011, 12:02

M.O.T tomorrow so need to know whats going on with this rear beam.

I just got my tracking done, as when I changed my beam with a scrappy one 2 months ago, it went severely out. Got it done and nothing has changed, tracking still seemed out, so I go back and they tell me that the wheels are alligned fine and its something else, I tell them about the rear beam being posibly dodgy as thats the only thing that has been changed since the tracking went out,

I have camber on the drivers rear wheels and it still hits the inner arch when i have two or more people in the car.

Shall I just get one IM axles and have done with it? its not possible it could be anything else is it?

18th January 2011, 15:54

Is anyone alive out there?

18th January 2011, 18:22

Just letting you know, when I had my old fucked rear axel on, the steering wheel sat a long way over to the left in order to go straight and the steering was generally dodgy as fuck as if the tracking was way out. I didn't think camber on the rear would have an affect like that, but I changed the beam over for an im axles one and it's sorted everything out.

I would suggest a refurb one mate, you know it's going to be fine and you get a guarantee so worth it in the long run. And you can save yourself a bit of money by fitting it yourself, it's really not that hard.

18th January 2011, 18:37

If you have enough camber on the drivers side rear wheel for it to rub on the inner arch, then I'd say the beam is rogered.

Without fully stripping a beam down, you've got no idea what the inner stub pins are like - precisely why I'd never buy one from a scrap yard.

18th January 2011, 19:56

you cant even align the rear i thought

sounds like your 2nd beam is fubar'd too

20th January 2011, 12:05

Gonna go to IM axles then, no other choice seeing as failed MOT today because of it, and this will stop any play in the rear wheels, unless wheel bearing is knackered aswell!

Is there any signs that tell you that just the bearing is at fault?