Is my vtr silver top or black top?

1. Rallypvc L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 derbyshire Posts: 54

   #1 21st November 2010, 19:15

   Sounds like a stupid question I know but my cam cover appears to have been painted several times so I really can't tell it's a 2001 Y reg is there any other way to tell? Using engine number? Any other way?
2. benaxvtr L-plater Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 44

   #2 21st November 2010, 19:18

   i put money on it its a silver top
3. Rallypvc L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 derbyshire Posts: 54

   #3 21st November 2010, 19:21

   It's defo it's original engine I've checked log book with engine number on the car I've tried to chip a little paint off at one corner its red at the mo but appears to have been blue and White previously
4. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

   #4 21st November 2010, 19:23

   isnt the blacktop engine the really early mk1 engine with distributors and ht leads?
5. user_42401 Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Cupar Fife Posts: 1712 1600 16v VTS 1600 8v VTR 1400 16v Clio Sport

   #5 21st November 2010, 19:23

   y reg = mk1 engine lol
6. benaxvtr L-plater Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 44

   #6 21st November 2010, 19:28

   i take it its mk2 saxo?
   
   http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...Picture220.jpg
   
   thats a silver top
   
   
   
   http://www.mv-dv.nl/Saxo/Green_setup.jpg
   
   and thats a blacktop
7. Rallypvc L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 derbyshire Posts: 54

   #7 21st November 2010, 19:29

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by SaxSpeed y reg = mk1 engine lol

   
   
   So it's the black top then? Need to find out as I'm ordering a Kent cam
8. Rallypvc L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 derbyshire Posts: 54

   #8 21st November 2010, 19:32

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by benaxvtr i take it its mk2 saxo? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...Picture220.jpg thats a silver top http://www.mv-dv.nl/Saxo/Green_setup.jpg and thats a blacktop

   
   Thanks or that it's a silver top for defo and yes it's a mark2 are the cam covers interchangeable silver to black vice versa?
9. benaxvtr L-plater Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 44

   #9 21st November 2010, 19:34

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Rallypvc Thanks or that it's a silver top for defo and yes it's a mark2 are the cam covers interchangeable silver to black vice versa?

   
   no probs lol,told ya me money was on a silvertop
10. benaxvtr L-plater Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 44

    #10 21st November 2010, 19:37

    [QUOTE=benaxvtr;4886496]no probs lol,told ya me money was on a silvertop [/QUOTE
    
    
    the top cam cover is, not to sure about the bottom one though
11. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #11 21st November 2010, 19:38

    if it confuses things at all, my mk1 has a silver top lol
12. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #12 21st November 2010, 19:39

    [QUOTE=benaxvtr;4886507]

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by benaxvtr no probs lol,told ya me money was on a silvertop [/QUOTE the top cam cover is, not to sure about the bottom one though

    whats the bottom cam cover lol?
13. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #13 21st November 2010, 20:00

    Y reg will be the 98bhp silver top.
14. benaxvtr L-plater Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 44

    #14 21st November 2010, 20:43

    [QUOTE=LSOfreak;4886513][QUOTE=benaxvtr;4886507]
    
    whats the bottom cam cover lol?[/QUOTE
    
    
    was meaning half of the cam belt cover lol
15. benaxvtr L-plater Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 44

    #15 21st November 2010, 20:43

    [QUOTE=benaxvtr;4886823][QUOTE=LSOfreak;4886513][QUOTE=benaxvtr;4886507]
    
    whats the bottom cam cover lol?[/QUOTE
    
    
    was meaning bottom half of the cam belt cover lol
16. benaxvtr L-plater Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 44

    #16 21st November 2010, 20:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LSOfreak if it confuses things at all, my mk1 has a silver top lol

    
    so has my ax gt on a k reg
17. user_47770 Newbie Joined: Oct 2010 Macclesfield, Cheshire Posts: 17

    #17 22nd November 2010, 17:32

    If you have a single plug ecu it is the 90bhp or 3 plug ecu is 98bhp. Mine is a 99 T with single plug silver top
18. user_42401 Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Cupar Fife Posts: 1712 1600 16v VTS 1600 8v VTR 1400 16v Clio Sport

    #18 22nd November 2010, 17:34

    Y REG MK2 STANDERD ENGINE VTR IS THE MK1 ENGINE.......END OFF
    
    ok lol
19. Jack Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 937 NA

    #19 22nd November 2010, 17:52

    I've got a standard Y reg VTR with 3 plug 98bhp silvertop engine...
20. user_42401 Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Cupar Fife Posts: 1712 1600 16v VTS 1600 8v VTR 1400 16v Clio Sport

    #20 22nd November 2010, 22:04

    well its not meant to be that engine thats in it haha, someone must of fitted that one to urs, and for the boy that started the post stated the engine numbers match to spec so it will be the mk1 engine
21. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #21 22nd November 2010, 22:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaxSpeed Y REG MK2 STANDERD ENGINE VTR IS THE MK1 ENGINE.......END OFF ok lol

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaxSpeed well its not meant to be that engine thats in it haha, someone must of fitted that one to urs, and for the boy that started the post stated the engine numbers match to spec so it will be the mk1 engine

    What are you talking about?
    
    The 'black top' engine (used a distributor cap and ignition leads) with non-roller rocker gear was fitted to 8V Saxos until roughly mid 1998. They were then fitted with the 90bhp 'silver top' engine with roller rocker gear until 2001. Anything Y reg and newer will be the 98bhp 'silver top' engine with 3 plug ECU.
    
    Rallypvc: if your car has a coil pack (which it should unless something is seriously wrong), you need a camshaft for a roller rocker engine.
22. Jack Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 937 NA

    #22 22nd November 2010, 22:18

    Some Y reg's had the 98bhp, and some had the 90bhp.
23. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #23 22nd November 2010, 22:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jackh7692 Some Y reg's had the 98bhp, and some had the 90bhp.

    I've yet to see a Y reg car with a 90bhp engine, but it's definitely possible.
    
    Either way, they are both silver top engines with roller rockers - as long as Rallypvc buys an aftermarket cam for an engine with roller rockers, it will fit.
24. DannyVTS Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 Pontefract Posts: 2177

    #24 22nd November 2010, 22:24

    Okay, i'm going to be really simple here
    
    urm
    
    is it silver or black?
    
    :|
25. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #25 22nd November 2010, 23:02

    I've got T 99 with Silver Top Single Plug Lol
26. user_36078 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Costa Del Posts: 8010

    #26 23rd November 2010, 00:02

    1997 Reg = Blacktop
    1998 - 2000 = 90BHP Silver Top (V,W,X Reg Mostly Mk2 Shape had the Mk1 Engines in them)
    2000> = 98BHP Silvertop (Y reg Onwards)
27. Rallypvc L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 derbyshire Posts: 54

    #27 23rd November 2010, 20:42

    Just to stop all the arguments I looked and it's a silvertop 3 plug ecu 98bhp
28. turbod_vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 stockport Posts: 103 Mk2 Saxo vtrt, clio sport, megane 225

    #28 29th August 2011, 14:22

    i have a vtr x reg 11/00 single plug silver top. will i gain anything from putting a cam out of a 3 plug engine? will a 106 rallye inlet fit my head?
29. user_36078 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Costa Del Posts: 8010

    #29 29th August 2011, 15:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by turbod_vtr i have a vtr x reg 11/00 single plug silver top. will i gain anything from putting a cam out of a 3 plug engine? will a 106 rallye inlet fit my head?

    Rallye Inlet will, I am sure you need to change a few sensors though. No, gains from a 3 plug Cam will not be at all successful. If you want good gains, look on www.kamracing.co.uk and have a look at Saxo VTR cams on there
30. turbod_vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 stockport Posts: 103 Mk2 Saxo vtrt, clio sport, megane 225

    #30 29th August 2011, 21:19

    sweet, wasnt sure if it was just black tops that could have the rallye inlet cheers
    going to look into the cams, is it worth getting a vernier pulley??