Why am i only 10mm away from the rear bump stop?

1. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

   #1 24th November 2010, 08:01

   Yet the rear is only lowered 70mm, whereas other fellow owners can drop the rear to around 100mm until it reaches the bump stops? is it becuase i have 15' vts wheels instead of the standard 14' vtr's? say if i wanted the rear to be another 10mm lower it would be resting on the bumpstops, so what options do i have? smaller bumpstops off a phase 1 106?
2. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #2 24th November 2010, 08:57

   you will most likely have to cut the bumpstops down, but you need to be careful as if you go over large bumps fast your suspension has no room to travel, making it skip out at the rear.

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3. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

   #3 6th December 2010, 01:34

   my saxo is lowered 100mm at the back. it can go down about another 10mm aswell then it hits the bumpstops and i also have 15s on it.
   
4. user_46290 Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Scotland Posts: 1362 Citroen Saxo MK1

   #4 6th December 2010, 01:37

   OMFG now that is low!! WOW
5. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

   #5 6th December 2010, 01:46

   you like mine vs standard
   
6. user_46290 Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Scotland Posts: 1362 Citroen Saxo MK1

   #6 6th December 2010, 01:51

   Lol i think its a little over bored lol max i would go is like 60mm , but it looks crazy next to the standard mate, nice going!! lol cars looking sexy though
7. FairDoos Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Manchester Posts: 414 Citroen Saxo 1.1i

   #7 6th December 2010, 02:49

   Ew not really my taste mate i dont like slammed flat arches they look like there suspensions broken or something
8. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

   #8 6th December 2010, 09:00

   Why would you lower it that much your asking for trouble!!
9. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

   #9 6th December 2010, 09:01

   As to the question just dnt have it that low?! There no need and they look shot lowered that much!! Max 50mm
10. gaz4399 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Chester Posts: 2850 1275 mini

    #10 6th December 2010, 09:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AndySAXO As to the question just dnt have it that low?! There no need and they look shot lowered that much!! Max 50mm

    +100000
    
    40mm - front and 50mm - rear is perfect imo
    
    heres mine
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    forsale btw
11. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

    #11 6th December 2010, 11:24

    Yer any lower it kills them, only time you get away with it is if it a euro car
12. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

    #12 6th December 2010, 13:07

    When a Saxo/106 is jacked up in the air and being lowered it is perfectly possible to lower 100mm but in reality as soon as it is lowered to the ground and the weight of the car is acting upon the rear suspension then anything lower than 70/80mm will be either on, or dangerously close to the bump stops.
    
    Firstly if a car is lowered to 100mm then when its on the floor of course it will never sit that low due to the bump stop restricting it.
    
    If there is no suspension travel then this should be an MOT failure anywhere if MOT stations are doing their job properly.
    
    A way round it is to shorten the bump stop to allow extra travel, s1 106 ones are slightly shorter than saxo/s2 106's for an easy swap/solution (or for those who dont give a stuff just cut your existing ones down) This is a quick and easy cowboy solution to giving a little extra travel, not recommened but will be better than leaving a car completely on its bump stops
    
    Ultimately if your car is lowered so much so that its on the bump stops then the constant banging has been known to severely screw up your shell, saw a car recently where it had been lowered 100mm for a long time and the boot floor had split and severely rusted, the chassis could be moved up and down before any suspension movement happened having split most of the spot welds in this area- hence i think the car was quickly scrapped.
    
    Moral of the story (or facts in this case) is that a sax/106 should not be lowered more than 70mm being dangerous not allowing sufficient suspension travel to operate.
    
    The only way around this is to firstly upgrade your torsion bars, a thicker bar is of course stiffer and wont travel as much as a standard torsion bar, these must be coupled with a decent set of rear dampers. Not cheap by any means but if you want to go low and want your car to last then you've got to be prepared to spend on a decent setup.
    
    Either way a sensible limit to rear lowering is 60mm. At the end of the day that is a safe limit and wont put too much extra stress on the rear beam/components.
13. gaz4399 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Chester Posts: 2850 1275 mini

    #13 6th December 2010, 13:15

    ^^well said
14. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #14 6th December 2010, 13:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LSOfreak Yet the rear is only lowered 70mm, whereas other fellow owners can drop the rear to around 100mm until it reaches the bump stops? is it becuase i have 15' vts wheels instead of the standard 14' vtr's? say if i wanted the rear to be another 10mm lower it would be resting on the bumpstops, so what options do i have? smaller bumpstops off a phase 1 106?

    vtr wheels with standard 185 55 14 tyres have a slightly greater circumference then a vts wheel 195 45 15
15. user_46290 Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Scotland Posts: 1362 Citroen Saxo MK1

    #15 7th December 2010, 23:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gaz4399 +100000 40mm - front and 50mm - rear is perfect imo heres mine forsale btw

    This is Sexy!! How much?
16. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #16 7th December 2010, 23:42

    needs lowering ^^

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17. gaz4399 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Chester Posts: 2850 1275 mini

    #17 8th December 2010, 06:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dane1 This is Sexy!! How much?

    2.3k ono
18. moxy89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Southampton Posts: 8188 Astra vxr with added boost

    #18 8th December 2010, 08:25

    that car is porn i do like buy my instead £2299 bargin
    
    
    
    imo that red flat arch looks shite, as said looks broken. mine 40mm on the front and 50mm on the rear using billies b8s.. decent height for both looks and performace
19. gaz4399 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Chester Posts: 2850 1275 mini

    #19 8th December 2010, 10:21

    price lowered to £2298 to beat moxy
20. moxy89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Southampton Posts: 8188 Astra vxr with added boost

    #20 8th December 2010, 11:20

    personally yours is better so price drop £6 delivered
21. gaz4399 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Chester Posts: 2850 1275 mini

    #21 8th December 2010, 11:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by moxy89 personally yours is better so price drop £6 delivered

    cheers mate. both pretty similar imo
    
    bargain!