dry sump??

1. jamieb809 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Sevenoaks, Kent Posts: 154 1998 Citroen saxo expose

   #1 24th November 2010, 18:11

   has anyone fitted a dry sump kit to their saxo??
   
   can you buy a kit specifically for the saxo?
   
   thanks jamie
2. Cammy Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Aberdeen Posts: 2211

   #2 24th November 2010, 18:28

   There is dry sump kits, wouldnt see the reason to use one on a low power saxo though
   
   Contact GMC motorsport, he's on here aswell, look in the affiltrates.
3. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #3 24th November 2010, 18:40

   Not cheap by any means.
   
   any reason you want to go this route?
4. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

   #4 24th November 2010, 18:48

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by C18VTR There is dry sump kits, wouldnt see the reason to use one on a low power saxo though Contact GMC motorsport, he's on here aswell, look in the affiltrates.

   where do you get these dry sump kits??
   
   
   
   baffled wet sumps do the job and more.
5. jamieb809 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Sevenoaks, Kent Posts: 154 1998 Citroen saxo expose

   #5 24th November 2010, 18:50

   i was talking to my college lecturer the other day (im studying motor vehicle technology/ motorsport)
   
   he said some people have claimed to have gained up to 15 bhp from dry sump kits. because the crank hasn't got to push through the oil usually sitting at the bottom of the sump reducing power.
6. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #6 24th November 2010, 19:33

   for the costs involved a decent camshaft can get more power.
   
   You will struggle to see an extra 15bhp from an engine which isnt producing much to begin with.
7. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

   #7 24th November 2010, 19:36

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jamieb809 i was talking to my college lecturer the other day (im studying motor vehicle technology/ motorsport) he said some people have claimed to have gained up to 15 bhp from dry sump kits. because the crank hasn't got to push through the oil usually sitting at the bottom of the sump reducing power.

   they do help on mega power engines. on a highly strung ford duratec 2.0 at my work producing roughly 285bhp it gave a few extra hp..
8. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #8 24th November 2010, 20:20

   commonly used on high powered scoobies, not heard on one on a saxo before, as said ,its alot of money!
9. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #9 25th November 2010, 11:49

   You are looking at about 1-2% gain on average up to about 4% with scraper plates. Considering it will cost near £2k its not really worth doing unless your car is used for racing purposes.
10. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

    #10 25th November 2010, 14:42

    not feasable on a saxo --where you going to mount the 4 or 6pot exterior oil pump and where you going to drive it from --
    where you going to fit your 3gallon oil tank and remote filters etc.
11. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #11 25th November 2010, 15:07

    the pace pump I have for my XU engine bolts under the sump pan, then you run an extra crank wheel to attach the belt drive. The original owner ran pipes to the boot but thats way too much weight in oil for my liking so i'm putting it above the gearbox..
    The Saxo enginebay is stupidly small though so you would not be able to have a battery there..
12. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

    #12 25th November 2010, 15:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by axsaxoman not feasable on a saxo --where you going to mount the 4 or 6pot exterior oil pump and where you going to drive it from -- where you going to fit your 3gallon oil tank and remote filters etc.

    tank and filters go in the back either in the boot or behind the seat and the pump would fit under the alternator or directly under the crank where the sump pan sits on a standard engine
    
    its completly possible and not that hard to do but unless your a full on race car its not worth the cost