Tighter Gears

1. Bensvts Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts

   #1 2nd December 2010, 12:33

   Own a vts and am wanting the gears to be shorter/tighter, have heard of people using quickshifts and stuff. But cant decide what to go for, also have the keypad immobliser if that affects the fitting of a quickshift.. am in need of someone to point me in the right direction of what to go for..
   
   cheers
2. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

   #2 2nd December 2010, 15:17

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3. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

   #3 2nd December 2010, 18:49

   There is no OEM gear clusters with closer ratios than the VTS. The only options are custom made clusters use by many for race and rally. These are however not cheap and normal excessively close for road use. Custom boxes like this should also be matched to your engine spec to get any advantage out of them.
   
   There are shorter ratios final drives available in many of the smaller engine vehicles. Some of the TU engine BXs as well as the AX 4x4 are some of the shortest. Many people fit shorter final drives or boxes with shorter final drives however there are some down sides. As you can imagine they can be some what detrimental for motorway driving. You also find that some of the shorter boxes are actually to short with out complimentary tuning of the engine. You can can actually end up going slower if you go to short. Though some people just like the fun of having to franticly change gear.
   
   If your talking a quick shift as in simply a short throw gear linkage there are plenty available. On responsive race spec engines they can help speed up gear changes. On a normal road car they will not really do anything for you but some like the feel and or possibly novelty of them.
4. Bensvts Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts

   #4 2nd December 2010, 19:05

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by AXracing There is no OEM gear clusters with closer ratios than the VTS. The only options are custom made clusters use by many for race and rally. These are however not cheap and normal excessively close for road use. Custom boxes like this should also be matched to your engine spec to get any advantage out of them. There are shorter ratios final drives available in many of the smaller engine vehicles. Some of the TU engine BXs as well as the AX 4x4 are some of the shortest. Many people fit shorter final drives or boxes with shorter final drives however there are some down sides. As you can imagine they can be some what detrimental for motorway driving. You also find that some of the shorter boxes are actually to short with out complimentary tuning of the engine. You can can actually end up going slower if you go to short. Though some people just like the fun of having to franticly change gear. If your talking a quick shift as in simply a short throw gear linkage there are plenty available. On responsive race spec engines they can help speed up gear changes. On a normal road car they will not really do anything for you but some like the feel and or possibly novelty of them.

   cheers for response
   
   am prob going to go for some sort of quick shift but just deciding which ones best to go for
5. Bensvts Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts

   #5 2nd December 2010, 22:46

   have been looking and have found a b&m quickshift, has anyone got one?? would they recommend or not?? also could be interested in buying one if someone selling one
6. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #6 2nd December 2010, 23:06

   If its costs £100 yes if it costs £45 no.
7. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #7 2nd December 2010, 23:44

   ive got group N linkages it feels much tighter, they're well easy to fit, eh db_sax
8. Bensvts Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts

   #8 2nd December 2010, 23:49

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by db_sax If its costs £100 yes if it costs £45 no.

   as in this one being the one worth buying yeah:-
   
   http://www.potn.co.uk/bm-sports-shif...0_p1615009.htm
9. Bensvts Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts

   #9 2nd December 2010, 23:52

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jeffchiz ive got group N linkages it feels much tighter, they're well easy to fit, eh db_sax

   Same.. but has gone back to wobbly gear stick again. i know this is due to the pin being worn but has bin drilled and bolt fitted just one of linkages is worn. but to me the travel from like 1st to 2nd is massive so hopefully adding a b&m quickshift will shorten it and tighting it all up once got new linkages again
10. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #10 3rd December 2010, 00:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffchiz ive got group N linkages it feels much tighter, they're well easy to fit, eh db_sax

    oi haha, yeh theyre a pig to fit, usually best if you have another person to pass the job onto (called nathan) lol
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bensvts as in this one being the one worth buying yeah:- http://www.potn.co.uk/bm-sports-shif...0_p1615009.htm

    Thats the one mate, best you can buy imo. Theres another comapny called BM which some poeple confuse with B&M and they produce an inferior product that dosent work anywhere near aswell and feels clunky! The one you linked is spot on though
11. Bensvts Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts

    #11 3rd December 2010, 00:25

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    Originally Posted by db_sax oi haha, yeh theyre a pig to fit, usually best if you have another person to pass the job onto (called nathan) lol Thats the one mate, best you can buy imo. Theres another comapny called BM which some poeple confuse with B&M and they produce an inferior product that dosent work anywhere near aswell and feels clunky! The one you linked is spot on though

    
    wicked will prob get one of them but arent really willing to pay that price for a new one atm will just have to wait and see if anyone is selling one
    also is there anyway of using the original gearknob or not??
12. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #12 3rd December 2010, 00:29

    Cant remember now mate, its a kit thats been around for years and at one point was hard to get hold of, tbf still hard to get hold of second hand as saxo owners aint willing to pay more when theres a cheaper quickshift out there lol Theres always a way though!
13. Bensvts Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 maidenhead Posts: 923 Track Itb'd Mk1 Vts

    #13 3rd December 2010, 00:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by db_sax Cant remember now mate, its a kit thats been around for years and at one point was hard to get hold of, tbf still hard to get hold of second hand as saxo owners aint willing to pay more when theres a cheaper quickshift out there lol Theres always a way though!

    ok mate cheers for advice anyways.. if so will just have to get it new, never mind newer the better
    
    cheers again
14. nath_vts Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Nottingham Posts: 501 JDM EP3

    #14 3rd December 2010, 00:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by db_sax oi haha, yeh theyre a pig to fit, usually best if you have another person to pass the job onto (called nathan) lol

    Get fucked
15. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #15 3rd December 2010, 01:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nath_vts Get fucked

    u loved it! lol