vtr brakes on 1.1

1. user_35183 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Swansea Posts: 248 Sundance 106 gti For Sale £1200 + corsa d 1.7 td

   #1 8th December 2010, 16:43

   Will vtr brakes fit on my 1.1 thats got the bendix calipers on ?. iv got the calipers in the house just want to know if they will go on before i rip them off!
2. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

   #2 8th December 2010, 16:56

   you'll need new discs and pads too mate
   
   otherwise yes
3. user_35183 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Swansea Posts: 248 Sundance 106 gti For Sale £1200 + corsa d 1.7 td

   #3 8th December 2010, 23:10

   ye i know gettin groved discs .
   
   thanks butt .
4. Saxotim Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Leeds Posts: 2865 172 Cup, Mk2 VTR

   #4 9th December 2010, 12:56

   only if it is 4 stud though.
5. Matt-T Established Member Joined: Oct 2010 Rednal Posts: 1943 Vauxhall Vectra VW Golf Mk4 Honda Prelude

   #5 9th December 2010, 12:59

   Silly question > why would you want VTR brakes with grooved discs etc on a 1.1?
   IMO paying that sort of money on a 1.1 is pointless.
6. user_40784 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 London Posts: 2768

   #6 9th December 2010, 13:21

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Matt-T Silly question > why would you want VTR brakes with grooved discs etc on a 1.1? IMO paying that sort of money on a 1.1 is pointless.

   Having VTR brakes on a 1.1 isn't even expensive plus its an added safety feature
7. user_44687 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 Paisley Posts: 642 Citroen saxo 1.1i

   #7 9th December 2010, 13:23

   and it could set you up for a engine swap in the fututre, one less thing to need unpgraded
8. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

   #8 9th December 2010, 17:10

   i done a vtr brake conversion and is perfect, the brakes are alot better and can rely on them
9. user_35183 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Swansea Posts: 248 Sundance 106 gti For Sale £1200 + corsa d 1.7 td

   #9 9th December 2010, 18:56

   Not pointles at all butt
   
   Whats the point on having them siting in the house doing fuck all ? not going to slow the house down are they
   
   And im only a few months away from my vtr lump being ready
   
   Nice car by the way robbie
10. user_40784 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 London Posts: 2768

    #10 9th December 2010, 19:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by neck1991 Not pointles at all butt Whats the point on having them siting in the house doing fuck all ? not going to slow the house down are they And im only a few months away from my vtr lump being ready Nice car by the way robbie

    Any reason for putting the r lump instead of an s?
11. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #11 9th December 2010, 21:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by neck1991 Not pointles at all butt Whats the point on having them siting in the house doing fuck all ? not going to slow the house down are they And im only a few months away from my vtr lump being ready Nice car by the way robbie

    
    dont listen to some people on here mate, a brake upgrade isnt pointless on a 1.1 or any car upgraded brakes are always going to be better and its your car mate so do it as you want it not how people try and tell you, good luck with the car and u shud start up a thread and get it going before the conversion
12. user_46290 Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Scotland Posts: 1362 Citroen Saxo MK1

    #12 10th December 2010, 00:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Robbie-Flat-Arch dont listen to some people on here mate, a brake upgrade isnt pointless on a 1.1 or any car upgraded brakes are always going to be better and its your car mate so do it as you want it not how people try and tell you, good luck with the car and u shud start up a thread and get it going before the conversion

    +1 do what you want mate, your car!!
13. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

    #13 10th December 2010, 00:41

    If you have bendix calipers your car will be 4 stud, so no worries in that department.
    
    Go nuts, you'll need new bolts from Citroen though.
14. user_46290 Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Scotland Posts: 1362 Citroen Saxo MK1

    #14 10th December 2010, 00:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mikol If you have bendix calipers your car will be 4 stud, so no worries in that department. Go nuts, you'll need new bolts from Citroen though.

    I hate going through the dealership!! They just take the piss..
15. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

    #15 10th December 2010, 01:16

    They usually have them on the shelf, they're about £4 each...
    
    Better than knackered ones from a breakers.
16. user_46290 Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Scotland Posts: 1362 Citroen Saxo MK1

    #16 10th December 2010, 01:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mikol They usually have them on the shelf, they're about £4 each... Better than knackered ones from a breakers.

    True....
17. user_35183 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Swansea Posts: 248 Sundance 106 gti For Sale £1200 + corsa d 1.7 td

    #17 11th December 2010, 19:06

    Im puttin the R in because i allready had one out of my vtr . got wrote off c!
    
    I got the bolts there somewhere ?? lol
18. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #18 11th December 2010, 19:15

    Id say this is a pointless upgrade like (i have done this myself) I feel almost no difference in my braking effort AND there was very little difference recorded on the brake rollers. Only worth doing if your going to be putting some serious heat into the brakes or your looking at some sort of softer compound pads. Got my bolts for free from a breakers.
19. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

    #19 11th December 2010, 19:39

    No-one said there would be a difference in braking effort - they're still 247mm discs, the maximum brake effort will be exactly the same.
    
    Solid discs are crap as far as heat dispersion is concerned. Try braking repeatedly from 70-0 on solid discs then trying to stop at the next set of lights. PROTIP: You won't.
    
    VT* ones are much better.
    
    Bolts from a breakers will no doubt be fine, but it's probably worth noting the fact that brand new ones are supplied with the ends threadlock coated if you do want to use second-hand parts.
20. user_35183 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Swansea Posts: 248 Sundance 106 gti For Sale £1200 + corsa d 1.7 td

    #20 12th December 2010, 15:08

    Quote:

    No-one said there would be a difference in braking effort - they're still 247mm discs, the maximum brake effort will be exactly the same. Solid discs are crap as far as heat dispersion is concerned. Try braking repeatedly from 70-0 on solid discs then trying to stop at the next set of lights. PROTIP: You won't. VT* ones are much better. Bolts from a breakers will no doubt be fine, but it's probably worth noting the fact that brand new ones are supplied with the ends threadlock coated if you do want to use second-hand parts.

    Very true mate !
    
    
    

    Quote:

    dont listen to some people on here mate, a brake upgrade isnt pointless on a 1.1 or any car upgraded brakes are always going to be better and its your car mate so do it as you want it not how people try and tell you, good luck with the car and u shud start up a thread and get it going before the conversion

    I have got one going on here hasnt been updated for a while as iv had to consetrate on the house
21. gavmc88 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 835 Wee Saxo 1.1

    #21 24th December 2010, 22:23

    just a quick Q
    
    Are you just doing the front ? as i was looking into doing mines aswell but my rear is drum and everywere ive looked is front and rear vtr discs?
    
    or can you change the back to discs ? im no sure at all lol
22. Morgzc Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Colchester/Coventry Posts: 2809 92 Mx5

    #22 24th December 2010, 22:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gavmc88 just a quick Q Are you just doing the front ? as i was looking into doing mines aswell but my rear is drum and everywere ive looked is front and rear vtr discs? or can you change the back to discs ? im no sure at all lol

    Need a new beam on the back for discs.
    Can get front discs and pads here vvvv
    http://www.kamracing.co.uk/index.php...o-vtr-vts.html

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23. gavmc88 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 835 Wee Saxo 1.1

    #23 24th December 2010, 22:33

    cheers dude got a few things in line before this so will have a good look into it =]
24. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #24 29th December 2010, 10:50

    Discs or drums really doesnt matter unless your regularly tracking the car and leaving it withthe handbrake.on directly after
    
    The rear braking on a saxo doesnt do much hence quite a few guys run a brake bias valve to be able to limit the amount the rears work as otherwise when you brake the nose dips with weight transfer abd the rears become light meaning its a lot easier to lock them up i personally wouldnt bother its not worth the effort imo