New "Orange" Airbag lead

1. Craig_B Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2009 Pontypool, S.Wales Posts: 3640 RenaultSport Clio 197 + Ph1 172

   #1 9th December 2010, 12:47

   Right i've had a search but didnt come up with nothing but a while ago, i changed my seats in my VTR to GTI Leather. But the "orange leads" in my car were different to the lead on the GTI seats, so i did a bit of a bodge job, but not going in to that Light has been on since then!
   
   Ive had a few days off, and with my MOT coming up i dont want the light on as its a fail isnt it? and i want it sorted, so can i just buy the lead that connects onto the seat tensioner thing, and into the car?
   
   That make sense?
   
   Cheers
2. user_31231 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 Derby Posts: 1153 VW Passat 1.9tdi 150

   #2 9th December 2010, 12:55

   does make sence mate my furio seats i swapped for vtr seats and airbag light was on i put tape over the bulb because no matter what i tryed still was on but it went through mot with airbag light on as a airbag isnt needed for mot
3. Saxotim Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Leeds Posts: 2865 172 Cup, Mk2 VTR

   #3 9th December 2010, 13:06

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Craig_B Right i've had a search but didnt come up with nothing but a while ago, i changed my seats in my VTR to GTI Leather. But the "orange leads" in my car were different to the lead on the GTI seats, so i did a bit of a bodge job, but not going in to that Light has been on since then! Ive had a few days off, and with my MOT coming up i dont want the light on as its a fail isnt it? and i want it sorted, so can i just buy the lead that connects onto the seat tensioner thing, and into the car? That make sense? Cheers

   
   you mightve bodged the wires the wrong wat around, i did this and my lighty came on, when i swapped them back, i.e. blue to blue & brown to brown the light went off
4. moxy89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Southampton Posts: 8188 Astra vxr with added boost

   #4 9th December 2010, 13:17

   it wont fail anyway mate
5. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

   #5 9th December 2010, 13:21

   Shouldnt be a fail mate, mine was on during an MOt and they put it on the advisory. Mine passed with it on
6. loudandproud205 Established Member Joined: Jun 2007 lincs Posts: 1044 205 Dimma, MR2 turbo Range Rover, Laguna

   #6 9th December 2010, 13:46

   unplug the control box behind the gearlever under the carpet.
   
   lights will never bother you again
7. user_48207 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 downpatrick, ireland Posts: 199 saxo vtr mk1 1.5 diesel 106 donor tddi focus

   #7 9th December 2010, 22:38

   airbags not a fail, sure some cars dont even have any
   if he fails u DECK HIM
8. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

   #8 9th December 2010, 22:45

   swap the pretensioners to the ones from your original seats. its only one bolt. this way its just like you've plugged in the standard seats again. Failing this do what i did and solder a 3ohm resistor to each wire from the carpet. it will make the system think its connected
9. Craig_B Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2009 Pontypool, S.Wales Posts: 3640 RenaultSport Clio 197 + Ph1 172

   #9 10th December 2010, 00:25

   Cheers, ive got a couple of days of next week so will take the seats back out and have a go at using my old wires on them and see if that solves it
   
   Cheers
10. poriordan Newbie Joined: Nov 2010 dagenham,essex Posts: 15 citreon saxo mk2,citreon saxo mk1, vauxhal vectra,

    #10 10th December 2010, 00:47

    not a fail but insurance must be informed as far as i know hope this helps
11. dave_1 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 llwyngwril Posts: 2698 saxo vts, Landrover td5, 16 tonne skyline

    #11 10th December 2010, 00:52

    as said it not a fail mine has gone through 2 mot's now and passed there is the tape method you can also just remove the bulb or you can solder a resistor to the wires to mimic the pretentioners but i havent got a clue what size the resistor is im sure its on here somewhere
12. Ciarannn Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Edinburgh Posts: 448 Black Vtr

    #12 10th December 2010, 14:55

    Take the pretensioner unit from your vtr seats and swap them onto the Gti seats.
    That's the no bodge way
13. nuttysaxo Established Member Joined: Dec 2008 Kent Posts: 1184 Saxo Furio

    #13 26th December 2012, 12:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LSOfreak swap the pretensioners to the ones from your original seats. its only one bolt. this way its just like you've plugged in the standard seats again. Failing this do what i did and solder a 3ohm resistor to each wire from the carpet. it will make the system think its connected

    sorry mate to drag this up i just got some vts air bagged seats , on my furio there is just one orange wire , underneath on the vts airbagged ones you have one single orange wire and another wire which is orange again but another one attached to it green / yellow , any ideas how to wire this up so i can still have my front air bag working cheers
14. user_61020 Established Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2009 Saxò VTS 16v

    #14 26th December 2012, 12:56

    Can't you just use the old pretensioner unit with its wires? did it this way and i havn't had any problem.
15. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #15 26th December 2012, 16:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by poriordan not a fail but insurance must be informed as far as i know hope this helps

    Of what exactly?
16. danny-vts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2010 Chesterfield/Nottingham Posts: 7147 dead vts. twisted 106 gti. '03' vtrrrr

    #16 26th December 2012, 23:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevo67 Of what exactly?

    doubt he will answer as it was 2 years ago lol
17. user_60976 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2012 Street, Somerset Posts: 460 2002 VTS

    #17 29th December 2012, 02:48

    its not a fail mate got gti seats in my vts and the air bag light is always on. took it for its mot and they didnt say a word about it!
18. AdamInNi Newbie Joined: Dec 2012 County Down Posts: 15 1.4 Swapped 106 Independence

    #18 31st December 2012, 16:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JacobLongman993 its not a fail mate got gti seats in my vts and the air bag light is always on. took it for its mot and they didnt say a word about it!

    Really? I thought the new MOT laws meant that if the light was on, the car failed...
19. MartinObviously Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge

    #19 31st December 2012, 17:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AdamInNi Really? I thought the new MOT laws meant that if the light was on, the car failed...

    if ANY lights are on the dash which are permanently on which should go out, it will fail.
    
    EML
    Airbag
    Handbrake/low fluid warning
    
    Will also fail if certain lights don't work i.e the blue high beam warning light and the fog warning light.
    
    Some testers do miss these things though!
20. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #20 1st January 2013, 16:01

    EML shouldn`t fail,abs is another fail though.
21. user_60976 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2012 Street, Somerset Posts: 460 2002 VTS

    #21 2nd January 2013, 20:18

    I must of just been lucky then! The light has been on scien i bought the car! Got to rember to disconnect it for the next M.O.T
22. user_61517 Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2012 canterbury Posts: 586 3/4 vtr turbo

    #22 2nd January 2013, 20:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MartinObviously if ANY lights are on the dash which are permanently on which should go out, it will fail. EML Airbag Handbrake/low fluid warning Will also fail if certain lights don't work i.e the blue high beam warning light and the fog warning light. Some testers do miss these things though!

    ABS, the mainbeam and foglight telltale lights not working are fails.
    
    cars fitted with electric power steering, ESP, brake fluid warning lights ( unless reservior below minimum), tyre pressure monitors, air bags lights and seat belt pre-tensioner warnings,handbrake lights and EML lights are still advisories until 1st april 2013
    
    i may have missed a couple of things...
    
    this will see alot of cars unfortunately come off the road
23. MartinObviously Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge

    #23 2nd January 2013, 20:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtr91 ABS, the mainbeam and foglight telltale lights not working are fails. cars fitted with electric power steering, ESP, brake fluid warning lights ( unless reservior below minimum), tyre pressure monitors, air bags lights and seat belt pre-tensioner warnings,handbrake lights and EML lights are still advisories until 1st april 2013 i may have missed a couple of things... this will see alot of cars unfortunately come off the road

    pffffft I knew it was something like that
24. user_61517 Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2012 canterbury Posts: 586 3/4 vtr turbo

    #24 2nd January 2013, 20:53

    damn MoT rule changes!
25. user_61020 Established Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2009 Saxò VTS 16v

    #25 2nd January 2013, 21:16

    Well if the airbag (steering wheel one) is there form factory but you use a resistor so the light works just like normal it should pass right?
26. user_61517 Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2012 canterbury Posts: 586 3/4 vtr turbo

    #26 2nd January 2013, 21:22

    the lights should come on when the ignition is on, and stay on for a few seconds when started then extinguish.
    
    however, if the light stays on, it is an MoT advisory for now until the 1st of april when they become a failure.
27. user_61020 Established Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2009 Saxò VTS 16v

    #27 2nd January 2013, 21:31

    Yes,"light works just like normal" is exactly what you wrote in the 1st line,thanks for the infos.
28. user_61517 Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2012 canterbury Posts: 586 3/4 vtr turbo

    #28 2nd January 2013, 21:40

    if it lights up and then goes out, then there is no problem