Questions about throttle bodies

14th December 2010, 09:11

1. Is it worth putting bodies on a vtr?
2. How much will it cost, buy and labour?
3. Power gains

Thanks

14th December 2010, 09:32

If you have lots of money then yes. If not just bang a VTS lump in.

14th December 2010, 09:47

I do not had that much money lol.

Any mods that will up the power coz I can't be bothered with a swap as it's my day car and I cant afford to not have it for a day

14th December 2010, 09:48

Whats your budget and i will tell you if you can do it or not?

14th December 2010, 10:23

I have about 600 give or take. Open to any ideas planning on getting a shortened gear stick and maybe groves discs

14th December 2010, 11:05

Best get cams before bodies, unless you want that noise then yes get them but 600 will not get you much for cams and re map looking that, for best valve get a 16v matey

14th December 2010, 11:20

I was thinking cams. As I said above I can't really afford to not have my car on the road and I don't have the equipment to do an engine swap at home moslty due to a gravel drive so I can't wheel the engine lift round

14th December 2010, 11:32

better going for a engine swap, can have it done in a day if youve got it all there

14th December 2010, 11:56

can do engine conversions in a day if your committed enough lol and no £600 wont get you anywhere

if you buy some gsxr1000 bodies off ebay for about £100 then send them off to sandy/collin they make it up to a bolt on kit for £500 and then you'll need a new ecu the cheapest is the predator ecu at £500 then its a matter of fitting them

BUT the get the most out of bodies you will want to cam it, on the cheap you can fit ph3 cams no problem, but to get the most power out the bodies you will want ph4 cams which require having your old pistons 'pocketed' for around £165 from sandy/colin or even better buy forged pistons at £500 and then after buying new gaskets, belts, water pump etc etc the engine will be ripped apart and will have to be rebuilt which is gonna cost a lot of labour etc etc so as you can see £600 wont get you far im afraid even just fitting cams and mapping will cost about a grand

simplest option.... put a vts engine in there! lol cost me £300 for everything i needed iirc mandyslover sell everything you need for £400 which is a good price

14th December 2010, 12:13

That sound good where did you get it done I live in Cambridge, does anyone know of a place near me that will do a swap?

14th December 2010, 12:59

i did it myself mate not overly hard i didnt have any experience just had a mate telling me what to do lol like i said mandyslover sells evreything you need and he'll fit it hes about 100miles away from cambridge which isnt too far

14th December 2010, 13:15

Hummm I'm tempted to do it myself if I make some space on my drive. There is an engine specialist near me which o have contacted and depending on the price I might have to do it myself lol.

14th December 2010, 14:10

Its the best mod you can do tbh its also the best place to start if your going to do anything serious like throttle bodies etc.

14th December 2010, 14:27

The thing that is playing on my mind is the legal side like telling the dvla and insurence etc. Will it increase the insurence and tax?

14th December 2010, 15:17

Sell Vtr and use extra the £600 to buy a Vts with!

Insurance companies don't like engine swops. (or most don't!), and may want an engineers report.

You must declare the engine swop to the DVLA.

14th December 2010, 15:47

If you want to keep an 8v and tune it then yes its worth it, but maybe I would find a 106 rallye engine instead.
If you just want more power then usually the 16v is a better starting block.

14th December 2010, 15:53

I would love to swap my engine to a 16V but the only reason I got a vtr is so tax and insurence would be lower that a Vts. And it kinda defeats the object if swap the engines over lol. This just dawned on me at college

14th December 2010, 20:50

take £600 put it in te bank.

Get some interest on it and add some more to it till you can afford to run a car with more power.

14th December 2010, 21:25

yer but adding bodies will also increase the insurance aswell as cams and re maps, a remap will add the most normal, as with a conversion they know the standard power is 120 bhp, but soon as you say re map they are like we cant prove the power and they add loads on the insurance, so it might be cheaper to do a conversion.

ring them up as say i might do this i might do that see what they come up with, but for power vs money valve for you a 16v conversion would be the best way to go.

14th December 2010, 22:47

I would save it but I'm getting a better job soon and then I getting a drift car

hopefully

14th December 2010, 23:00

Bodies - £650
Standalone ecu - £600 +
mapping - £150
Cams - £200
Headwork - £300
Gaskets/belts/headbolts replacement - £150
Labour - £30+ per hour

This is assuming exhaust/manifold/induction are sorted already

Figures - Around 150bhp

15th December 2010, 10:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by langy88

I would save it but I'm getting a better job soon and then I getting a drift car

hopefully

then its pointless. spend the money on the drift car

15th December 2010, 10:55

Vtr_Craig are you talking about mods on a vtr or Vts?

I have money in the bank for a new car any I'm getting some extra money from work so I thought I would treat myself.

15th December 2010, 11:12

150 for mapping it more 300 quid for mapping most places it about 80 quid an hour, and takes good 3to 4 hours for a full map.

15th December 2010, 11:15

What would the power gains be for a remap on a vtr is there any point at that cost

15th December 2010, 15:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by langy88

What would the power gains be for a remap on a vtr is there any point at that cost

a waste of cash remapping a non boosted standard engine imo.

There are gains but money is better spent elsewhere.

15th December 2010, 15:05

Yer that's what I thought and have been told by other people.

15th December 2010, 15:33

Bike carbs are a cheaper way of doing it but ares soo much more unreliable!