Ashley backboxes...

1. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

   #1 17th December 2010, 21:40

   Anyone have one or have had one?
   Experiences with them?
   Going to buy one on sunday with a supersprint race section....
   Whats the noise levels like?
   Does it pop bang etc?
   Any performance increase?
   At the minute i have sportex racetube and backbox, can tell the difference when accelerating, very noisey, also pops and bangs
   I Dont mind it, just slightly over loud.
2. user_28362 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 5306 911 Turbo

   #2 17th December 2010, 21:58

   Ashley are cheap
   Have a good rep for power on pugs & cits
   
   The are loud for straight through
   
   Good bangs for your bucks
3. minimanspk Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 stoke on trent Posts: 880 saxo 1.1 forte 2001 poseidon blue

   #3 17th December 2010, 21:58

   Dont know if im wrong but I thought that ashley back boxes were louder than sportex and I think that they are near the same back box.
4. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

   #4 17th December 2010, 22:01

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jonathon5 Ashley are cheap Have a good rep for power on pugs & cits The are loud for straight through Good bangs for your bucks

   cheap? 155 quid brand new?
5. user_28362 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 5306 911 Turbo

   #5 17th December 2010, 22:20

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by -R3Fu3LED- cheap? 155 quid brand new?

   That is cheap compared to Kam , saxsport or Magnex
   
   All are £240 +
   
   So £155 is a bargain
   
   Where from ?
6. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

   #6 17th December 2010, 22:21

   Loud , badly made, bad fit and cheap metal to make them.
   
   I had one many years ago on an mg metro, used to be in strine way newport alot in it,if doing long distances you had to take paracetamol with you as you would get a head ache.
   Think i put up with it for 2 monthes before i spent alot of money on a janspeed system which was far better in every way.
   
   I would steer clear of ashley
7. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

   #7 17th December 2010, 22:28

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jonathon5 That is cheap compared to Kam , saxsport or Magnex All are £240 + So £155 is a bargain Where from ?

   magnex is an awful make, hideos.
   a kam racing or saxsport back box isnt 240+, your on about the full system, im on about just the backbox from ashley being 150
8. user_28362 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 5306 911 Turbo

   #8 17th December 2010, 22:41

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by -R3Fu3LED- magnex is an awful make, hideos. a kam racing or saxsport back box isnt 240+, your on about the full system, im on about just the backbox from ashley being 150

   You are a fool to spend £155 on a back box when a full Ashley is £169
   
   As the man says ashley is cheap , but can make good power
   
   If your car is a 1.1 you are pissing in the wind
9. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

   #9 17th December 2010, 22:46

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jonathon5 You are a fool to spend £155 on a back box when a full Ashley is £169 As the man says ashley is cheap , but can make good power If your car is a 1.1 you are pissing in the wind

   my car is a 1.1
   im getting one second hand, not brand new.
10. user_39025 Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Arbroath Posts: 749 Golf Gti 1.8 20v T

    #10 17th December 2010, 22:55

    I've heard the ashley backboxes are a pain to get sitting right,that's why i bought a sportex for my vtr when i had it,sounded ok and sat in recess fine,now I'm not sure what make backbox is on my vts but its not as loud but 100% more bearable
11. Pearson Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 Doncaster. Posts: 2115 Y' Reg MK2 1.6i VTR

    #11 17th December 2010, 23:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -R3Fu3LED- Anyone have one or have had one? Experiences with them? Going to buy one on sunday with a supersprint race section.... Whats the noise levels like? Does it pop bang etc? Any performance increase? At the minute i have sportex racetube and backbox, can tell the difference when accelerating, very noisey, also pops and bangs I Dont mind it, just slightly over loud.

    I had one yes for about 5 month before i got my 2" Supersprint backbox, the sound wasnt bad but all i can say is the fitment is absolutely wank haha, the hangers on the backbox itself are far too big, the backbox will practically hang about 6/7 inch of their recess, i didnt have de-cat on the car when i was running that system so didnt hear it's full potential.
    
    Heres a video of a VTS with De-cat/Supersprint Race Centre Section/3" Ashley Competition Backbox;
    
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In-mRg0hlYs
    
    Heres a picture of mine when i had it before i adjusted it with tie wraps, sits awful dude;
    
    
    
    
12. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

    #12 17th December 2010, 23:17

    surely its gotta be better than my sportex atm?
13. Pearson Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 Doncaster. Posts: 2115 Y' Reg MK2 1.6i VTR

    #13 17th December 2010, 23:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -R3Fu3LED- surely its gotta be better than my sportex atm?

    Compare the two systems with a video dude, only way to find out but not putting you off or anything but the fitment of the Ashley backbox is wank .
14. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

    #14 17th December 2010, 23:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pearson Compare the two systems with a video dude, only way to find out but not putting you off or anything but the fitment of the Ashley backbox is wank .

    some people i know with the ashley backbox, its sat perfect in the recess?
15. Pearson Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 Doncaster. Posts: 2115 Y' Reg MK2 1.6i VTR

    #15 17th December 2010, 23:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -R3Fu3LED- some people i know with the ashley backbox, its sat perfect in the recess?

    Tie wraps or very short length exhaust rubber mounts, i used powerflex exhaust mounts and then tie wraps which brought the exhaust up, urmm it sat like this from sidewards point of view;
    
    
    
    Just relised, i have a video of the Supersprint Race Centre Section/Ashley 3" Competition Backbox 'BEFORE' i de-catted my car and got a new backbox;
    
    
    
    NOTE; Thats after powerflex exhaust rubber mounts and tie wraps were used.
16. user_28362 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 5306 911 Turbo

    #16 17th December 2010, 23:36

    Tail pipe sticks out
17. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

    #17 17th December 2010, 23:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pearson Tie wraps or very short length exhaust rubber mounts, i used powerflex exhaust mounts and then tie wraps which brought the exhaust up, urmm it sat like this from sidewards point of view; Just relised, i have a video of the Supersprint Race Centre Section/Ashley 3" Competition Backbox 'BEFORE' i de-catted my car and got a new backbox; NOTE; Thats after powerflex exhaust rubber mounts and tie wraps were used.

    
    sounds good though
18. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

    #18 18th December 2010, 09:05

    Ashley do not sound good at all!
    
    The reason they sit well on some cars and not others is down to poor build quality and inspection when being made.
    
    Cant see how you can magnex one of the biggest names in aftermarket exhausts are poor!
    They are worlds apart from an ashley system,
19. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

    #19 18th December 2010, 09:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by swampy Ashley do not sound good at all! The reason they sit well on some cars and not others is down to poor build quality and inspection when being made. Cant see how you can magnex one of the biggest names in aftermarket exhausts are poor! They are worlds apart from an ashley system,

    you would advice me not to go and get this on sunday mate then?
    cuz im after a piper if not.
20. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

    #20 18th December 2010, 09:59

    I woulnt put one any where near my car.
    Overly loud, badly made and from cheap materials.
    
    Look at the replys in this thread and make your own mind up.
21. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

    #21 18th December 2010, 10:04

    Hmm dont know what to do now lol
22. vtcarl Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 telford, shropshire Posts: 968 E86 Z4 3.0 si coupe

    #22 18th December 2010, 10:33

    id leave it and save the money for a better system. save for the super sprint manifold and saxsport/supersprint system.
23. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

    #23 18th December 2010, 10:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtcarl id leave it and save the money for a better system. save for the super sprint manifold and saxsport/supersprint system.

    ive decided i want piper carl, not overstruck on the saxport and dont want a supersprint like everyone else
    Piper is the way forward!
    Still after a piper backbox though!
24. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #24 18th December 2010, 10:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -R3Fu3LED- magnex is an awful make, hideos. a kam racing or saxsport back box isnt 240+, your on about the full system, im on about just the backbox from ashley being 150

    Magnex are an awful make? lmfao what? Theyre one of the most proven exhausts for the saxo.
    
    £340ish a few year ago, and considered one of the best built systems, good quality and last long etc. Good results, not overly loud.
    
    Unless you want a ripspeed backbox?
    
    Or have I just been tricked by my favourite talent of sarcasm as that is a very silly statment you made lol
25. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

    #25 18th December 2010, 15:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by db_sax Magnex are an awful make? lmfao what? Theyre one of the most proven exhausts for the saxo. £340ish a few year ago, and considered one of the best built systems, good quality and last long etc. Good results, not overly loud. Unless you want a ripspeed backbox? Or have I just been tricked by my favourite talent of sarcasm as that is a very silly statment you made lol

    db, i personally hate magnex, i think they look awful, sound awful.
    Just my opinion!
26. user_28362 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 5306 911 Turbo

    #26 18th December 2010, 16:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -R3Fu3LED- db, i personally hate magnex, i think they look awful, sound awful. Just my opinion!

    I thinks you are deluded if you consider Ashley to be better
27. Pearson Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 Doncaster. Posts: 2115 Y' Reg MK2 1.6i VTR

    #27 19th December 2010, 00:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jonathon5 I thinks you are deluded if you consider Ashley to be better

    He ain't deluded is he, each to their own in my opinion, personally i think the Saxsport system sounds poor, it sounds too tinny compared with the Supersprint but that's my opinion.
28. ryza Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 ipswich Posts: 961 track saxo Daily beemer

    #28 19th December 2010, 01:16

    piper backbox with a supersprint centre senction is what i've got and sounds sweet, but only when u put ur foot down, not much of a drowning noise and soon it will have a decat 3.5" sit in the recess perfect but some people think that's to big which is fair enough. it's down to what you like. and btw i fitted the supersprint section and the piper box in just over half and hour and it was so easyyyy! just went together perfect
29. Cammy Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Aberdeen Posts: 2211

    #29 19th December 2010, 09:20

    comparing Ashley to sportex is a huge mistake
    
    Sportex and ashley are 2 different companys, and ashley have a better reputation, where-as sportex are a "cheap" manufacturer for people who want the sounds, but in theory no real gain(s) compared to more expensive aftermarket systems, Sportex also dont sound as good as ashley - as said, there for people who just want the sound of a loud car.
30. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

    #30 19th December 2010, 13:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jonathon5 I thinks you are deluded if you consider Ashley to be better

    i dont like magnex.
    end.
31. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #31 19th December 2010, 14:41

    An opinion on sound and looks wize cant be deluded, but saying a company that has by far the best reputation as shit is deluded.
32. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

    #32 19th December 2010, 17:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by db_sax An opinion on sound and looks wize cant be deluded, but saying a company that has by far the best reputation as shit is deluded.

    i just personally dont like them, i think there shit.
33. bushy90 Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Kent Posts: 602 R53 MCS

    #33 19th December 2010, 18:04

    Fair enough that's your opinion, but Magnex are by far the more established well renowned company.
    
    Saying that I don't like the way they look or sound!
34. joe_112 Newbie Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 12

    #34 19th December 2010, 18:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cammy comparing Ashley to sportex is a huge mistake Sportex and ashley are 2 different companys, and ashley have a better reputation, where-as sportex are a "cheap" manufacturer for people who want the sounds, but in theory no real gain(s) compared to more expensive aftermarket systems, Sportex also dont sound as good as ashley - as said, there for people who just want the sound of a loud car.

    I agree with this. I have just had a full cat back system fitted by John Ashley himself. These are tried and tested. They are both designed on car so fit well.
35. user_28362 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 5306 911 Turbo

    #35 19th December 2010, 18:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joe_112 I agree with this. I have just had a full cat back system fitted by John Ashley himself. These are tried and tested. They are both designed on car so fit well.

    How much power did you get ? How loud is it ?
36. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #36 19th December 2010, 18:22

    my ashley was great. you have to adjust the hangers once its been fitted to the car to get it sitting right, mine sat perfectly using nothing but the standard ashley hangers and citroen rubbers.
    i had mine on my vts with a sportex straight through and it sounded awesome, if not a little bit too loud. it only went to be replaced by a btb
37. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

    #37 19th December 2010, 18:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joe_112 I agree with this. I have just had a full cat back system fitted by John Ashley himself. These are tried and tested. They are both designed on car so fit well.

    ashley backboxes dont fit well, even i know this lol.

    1 user thanked this post: Mochachino
38. Squeak_ Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2010 suffolk Posts: 811 (2000) black VTR

    #38 19th December 2010, 19:00

    my mates got one, sounds ok imo but dosent hang well
39. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #39 19th December 2010, 19:54

    get someone competant to fit it and it hangs fine.
40. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

    #40 19th December 2010, 20:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeM get someone competant to fit it and it hangs fine.

    im getting a piper now anyway
    Much better
41. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

    #41 19th December 2010, 20:43

    i got ashley backbox with supersprint centre. like the sound and not overly loud on a de cat system.
    and as said above i managed to adjust mine to fit the recess fine just adusting hangers and on standard rubbers. doesn;t poke out too much as thats adjustable too.
    got mine second hand too at around £50 if i can remember but really like it.
42. joe_112 Newbie Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 12

    #42 20th December 2010, 23:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jonathon5 How much power did you get ? How loud is it ?

    Not had much chance to drive it with the snow and all, but when i have put my foot down seems to pull much better.
43. N80Jamie Established Member Joined: Nov 2009 Telford Posts: 1331 EP82 Starlet GT

    #43 21st December 2010, 02:00

    Who needs Ashley when you have Scorpion
44. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

    #44 21st December 2010, 10:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N80Jamie Who needs Ashley when you have Scorpion

    dont like the saxsport, too tinny for me.
45. akuakabucy Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Liverpool Posts: 596 Mk5 Golf GTTDI, Vauxhall Vivaro

    #45 22nd December 2010, 13:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by piebobs71 I've heard the ashley backboxes are a pain to get sitting right,that's why i bought a sportex for my vtr when i had it,sounded ok and sat in recess fine,now I'm not sure what make backbox is on my vts but its not as loud but 100% more bearable

    Yours is a Magnex mate.
    
    Iv had Magnex's on all my saxo's and I have had 4 of them. Always spot on, no problems, not too loud, fit spot on and look good and not over the top. Also on Piebobs VTS its pops and sounds sweet.
    
    Would highly reccomend them. When they where going (before went bust) you had a lifetime garantee with them. And I think the exhaust would outlast any car. Can prob pick one up cheap 2nd hand now too.
46. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

    #46 22nd December 2010, 17:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by akuakabucy Yours is a Magnex mate. Iv had Magnex's on all my saxo's and I have had 4 of them. Always spot on, no problems, not too loud, fit spot on and look good and not over the top. Also on Piebobs VTS its pops and sounds sweet. Would highly reccomend them. When they where going (before went bust) you had a lifetime garantee with them. And I think the exhaust would outlast any car. Can prob pick one up cheap 2nd hand now too.

    they are a well made backbox but i really do hate the looks and the noise from them!