1.1 Gearbox on VTS

1. DannyVTS Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 Pontefract Posts: 2177

   #1 18th December 2010, 13:40

   Really struggling to find a VTS gearbox, but a local fitter has a 1.1 box in. I know the diff's are meant to be weaker but surely only the same as the VTR box as that's gone on mine!!
   
   Anyone got a VTS with a 1.1 box?
2. olibond L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 devon Posts: 70 white mark 1 saxo vtr, 2.5d nissan nirvara

   #2 18th December 2010, 21:36

   not me, but just sayin that i dont think it would last 5 minutes m8
3. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

   #3 18th December 2010, 21:43

   plenty of people are running 1.1 boxes on S engines, driven sensibly they'll last even on tuned engines,drive like a tool and any gearbox will destroy itself eventually
4. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #4 19th December 2010, 10:48

   +1
   
   Steve.
5. titchster Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5

   #5 19th December 2010, 14:09

   Been mentioned in loads of threads.
   
   I had one. Used it hard, but with mechanical sympathy, still lives.
6. user_39173 Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Hull Posts: 983 01' Ph1 VTS

   #6 19th December 2010, 15:40

   of course it will work, it will just rev higher at higher speeds unlike the S box... like what has been said... it will last if its used right and not ragged around with no sympathy
7. DannyVTS Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 Pontefract Posts: 2177

   #7 19th December 2010, 15:59

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by JonCarter of course it will work, it will just rev higher at higher speeds unlike the S box... like what has been said... it will last if its used right and not ragged around with no sympathy

   You sound like someone who has been too influenced by other peoples views rather than expressing your own
   
   Thanks for the comments though guys
8. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

   #8 19th December 2010, 16:43

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by olibond not me, but just sayin that i dont think it would last 5 minutes m8

   mines been going 5 months. yes, its an R and not an S, but they're still more powerful than the 1.1
   
   worth doing mate, as i couldn't find a vtr box myself!
9. Morgzc Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Colchester/Coventry Posts: 2809 92 Mx5

   #9 19th December 2010, 16:45

   Irrc vtr and vts have the same sports diff.
10. DannyVTS Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 Pontefract Posts: 2177

    #10 19th December 2010, 16:47

    I have a VTR box at the moment and the diff is going, same happened to Scott's VTR so they can't be that sporty :\
11. user_4681 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2004 Grimsby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5489 SUPERCHARGED saxo vts

    #11 19th December 2010, 16:48

    i used one for a while when my vts box was being rebuilt for a quaife.
    
    it did several track days and had no problems.
    
    i think its just drag style starts that kills them.
12. Morgzc Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Colchester/Coventry Posts: 2809 92 Mx5

    #12 19th December 2010, 16:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DannyVTS I have a VTR box at the moment and the diff is going, same happened to Scott's VTR so they can't be that sporty :\

    Maybe you just bought naff boxes?
13. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

    #13 19th December 2010, 16:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sexy_gt i used one for a while when my vts box was being rebuilt for a quaife. it did several track days and had no problems. i think its just drag style starts that kills them.

    and goons wheel spinning in the snow lol, diffs really don't like that. One wheel gets tractiondiff can't cope with shock loading, kaboom,nasty smell of gearoil,big holes where bits of diff bust through casing!!
14. user_4681 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2004 Grimsby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5489 SUPERCHARGED saxo vts

    #14 19th December 2010, 16:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Morgzc Maybe you just bought naff boxes?

    thats true unless its unopened to check or brand new from the factory with 0 miles on it who knows what idiot has been behind the wheel
15. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #15 19th December 2010, 17:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sexy_gt i think its just drag style starts that kills them.

    i just baby it in first then cane it after that
16. DannyVTS Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 Pontefract Posts: 2177

    #16 19th December 2010, 17:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sexy_gt thats true unless its unopened to check or brand new from the factory with 0 miles on it who knows what idiot has been behind the wheel

    My VTR box was refurbished last year with receipts :\
17. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #17 19th December 2010, 18:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DannyVTS My VTR box was refurbished last year with receipts :\

    happens to us all mate. i've got a vtr box in the garage but the place that went to fit it said the bearings were shagged
18. user_4681 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2004 Grimsby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5489 SUPERCHARGED saxo vts

    #18 20th December 2010, 17:29

    depends on what you call a refurbish? bearings? syncros? gears?...
19. GTuff Established Member Joined: Apr 2007 Alderley Edge,Cheshire Posts: 1048 1.6 VT?

    #19 21st December 2010, 15:03

    put an auto in
20. Kai Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Weston-super-Mare Posts: 293 Mauritius 5 Door 106

    #20 21st December 2010, 15:16

    I remember reading that the 1.1 gave better acceleration lower down the revs than a 1.6 box? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
21. user_42892 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 high wycombe Posts: 848 Astra VXR

    #21 21st December 2010, 15:22

    yeah i currenty run a vtr 16v with a 1.1 box, it gets a hardish life but i only use it now and again as its my toy but the gearbox has held fine. you will notice a good differnace in acceleration much faster than a vtr or vts box
22. user_44872 Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2010 Tamworth Posts: 476 Black and Blue Vtr

    #22 21st December 2010, 17:55

    i have a 1.4 box for sale if you interested bit of a drive tho but hey p.m me if interested
23. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #23 22nd December 2010, 07:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kai I remember reading that the 1.1 gave better acceleration lower down the revs than a 1.6 box? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

    its a shorter box