dont spin it up on a hill

1. olibond L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 devon Posts: 70 white mark 1 saxo vtr, 2.5d nissan nirvara

   #1 18th December 2010, 15:51

   just got my car sorted after freezing it, but unfortunately yesterday i was going up a hill and a moment of lunacy went over me and i decided to redline it and then dump clutch after going up a speed bump in 1st, went fine for about 3 metres but then i heard a large groaning sound and then car stopped, still ticked over but wouldnt move, wouldnt go into gear and the steering wheel wouldnt move, got out to have a look, massive oil leak, numerous bolts and screws rolling down the road, my uncle had a look today, ive blown the end of the gear box and wrecked the drive shaft, not what u need over the christmas period, ive suspended the insurance as its a tenner a day, should be back on the road within two weeks, sad times.,............
2. ashleyoneill Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Chippenham, Wiltshire Posts: 796 Mk2 Wicked Red VTS

   #2 18th December 2010, 15:53

   insurance a tenner a day?!?!?! Thats £300 a month. I pay just less than that a year for my VTS!
3. ashleyoneill Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Chippenham, Wiltshire Posts: 796 Mk2 Wicked Red VTS

   #3 18th December 2010, 15:55

   Anyway. Second hand gearbox, driveshaft. job done.
   
   Sounds like you destroyed the Diff.
4. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #4 18th December 2010, 15:55

   I dont think we need the advice of redlining it and dum,ping the clutch, we aint all dumb like that.

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5. char69lie Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 Norwich Posts: 1275 00 Silver 106GTi

   #5 18th December 2010, 15:56

   Why when it snows... do people do such stupid things lol..
6. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

   #6 18th December 2010, 15:56

   don't go telling everyon the secret of gearbox preservation, how will i make a living then?
7. olibond L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 devon Posts: 70 white mark 1 saxo vtr, 2.5d nissan nirvara

   #7 18th December 2010, 15:58

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by ashleyoneill insurance a tenner a day?!?!?! Thats £300 a month. I pay just less than that a year for my VTS!

   if u want a vtr when your 18 m8 these r the prices lol, savage init
8. user_31637 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Isle of Man Posts: 9844 92 Eunos

   #8 18th December 2010, 16:00

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by olibond if u want a vtr when your 18 m8 these r the prices lol, savage init

   i was in this situation and they are most definately not the price i paid per month... 300 x 12 = 3600....
   
   I paid 1k and its down to 600 quid now...
9. ashleyoneill Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Chippenham, Wiltshire Posts: 796 Mk2 Wicked Red VTS

   #9 18th December 2010, 16:01

   +1
   
   We make a living out of people breaking their cars
10. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #10 18th December 2010, 16:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mandyslover70 don't go telling everyon the secret of gearbox preservation, how will i make a living then?

    Oh shit forgot. I reccomend doing what the OP said once a day just to make sure the engine dosent seize in this weather.
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by olibond if u want a vtr when your 18 m8 these r the prices lol, savage init

    wen i wuz 18 i payd 1250 £ m8 it wa well cheap bk den bt now it gn up m8 bcuz ppl cudnt spell proply on da insurance documentays n it gt put dwn wrng n cownted as fwaud which y it gn up.
11. ashleyoneill Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Chippenham, Wiltshire Posts: 796 Mk2 Wicked Red VTS

    #11 18th December 2010, 16:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by olibond if u want a vtr when your 18 m8 these r the prices lol, savage init

    Had a VTR at 18 and was paying about £1k with 1 years NCB and a good area.
12. olibond L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 devon Posts: 70 white mark 1 saxo vtr, 2.5d nissan nirvara

    #12 18th December 2010, 16:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jayyoung i was in this situation and they are most definately not the price i paid per month... 300 x 12 = 3600.... I paid 1k and its down to 600 quid now...

    insurance for new drivers has gone up 51 percent in last year though, its ridiculous, i searched everywhere, all the comparison place, and rang up loads of insurers direct aswell. in my opinion its worth it though, ive wanted one since i was 15.hapy to work hard to run it, itll go down loads after a year no claims n e way.
13. sam2kk8 Established Member Joined: Nov 2009 South East - Bromley Posts: 1106 Starlet GT Turbo [jap import]

    #13 18th December 2010, 16:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by olibond if u want a vtr when your 18 m8 these r the prices lol, savage init

    i pay 2 grnd for an imported 1.3 turbo.....im 18 and live in 1 of the most expensive areas for insurance...take time to look around and everythings goood
14. ashleyoneill Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Chippenham, Wiltshire Posts: 796 Mk2 Wicked Red VTS

    #14 18th December 2010, 16:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by olibond insurance for new drivers has gone up 51 percent in last year though, its ridiculous, i searched everywhere, all the comparison place, and rang up loads of insurers direct aswell. in my opinion its worth it though, ive wanted one since i was 15.hapy to work hard to run it, itll go down loads after a year no claims n e way.

    You wait a few months and you will be bored.
    
    I'm 24 and driven saxos for 6 years. Going to buy something German next year. So fed up of fixing my VTS. In the last year its had...
    
    - clutch
    - engine mount
    - damper change
    - drop links
    - rust sorted
    - idle problem sorted
    - oil leak sorted
    - trailing arm bearings replaced
    - manifold changed
    - new battery
15. sam2kk8 Established Member Joined: Nov 2009 South East - Bromley Posts: 1106 Starlet GT Turbo [jap import]

    #15 18th December 2010, 16:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by olibond insurance for new drivers has gone up 51 percent in last year though, its ridiculous, i searched everywhere, all the comparison place, and rang up loads of insurers direct aswell. in my opinion its worth it though, ive wanted one since i was 15.hapy to work hard to run it, itll go down loads after a year no claims n e way.

    so you've looked forward to getting one and take no pride in looking after it? i can understand maxing it and racing around but seriously why would you do stupid stuff in weather like this? untill people actully get in a bad situation which almost write their car off and almost injure themselves thats when they start to drive sensible in the snow?
    Wake Up Pal!
16. Vtr_HBO Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 Stoke on Trent Posts: 307 Silver 106 GTI

    #16 18th December 2010, 16:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jayyoung i was in this situation and they are most definately not the price i paid per month... 300 x 12 = 3600.... I paid 1k and its down to 600 quid now...

    Snap! I also only paid £998 for insurance as newbie driver of a MK2 Vtr! now im on a MK1 vtr 4 years on and its £510
17. user_38198 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 West Mids Posts: 1847 Peugeot 106 1.1

    #17 18th December 2010, 16:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ashleyoneill You wait a few months and you will be bored. I'm 24 and driven saxos for 6 years. Going to buy something German next year. So fed up of fixing my VTS. In the last year its had... - clutch - engine mount - damper change - drop links - rust sorted - idle problem sorted - oil leak sorted - trailing arm bearings replaced - manifold changed - new battery

    Nothing drastic there, just routine maintainance and consumable items IMO.
18. ashleyoneill Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Chippenham, Wiltshire Posts: 796 Mk2 Wicked Red VTS

    #18 18th December 2010, 16:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Meto Nothing drastic there, just routine maintainance and consumable items IMO.

    you are joking right??
    
    These are consumables
    
    - clutch
    - new battery
    
    The rest are not.
19. olibond L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 devon Posts: 70 white mark 1 saxo vtr, 2.5d nissan nirvara

    #19 18th December 2010, 16:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ashleyoneill You wait a few months and you will be bored. I'm 24 and driven saxos for 6 years. Going to buy something German next year. So fed up of fixing my VTS. In the last year its had... - clutch - engine mount - damper change - drop links - rust sorted - idle problem sorted - oil leak sorted - trailing arm bearings replaced - manifold changed - new battery

    hope i wont get bored lol, compared to my company car 2.5d nirvara, the acceleration is insane, pretty fast in my opinion, if i had a vts id probably wrap it round in a tree in 5 minutes
20. ashleyoneill Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Chippenham, Wiltshire Posts: 796 Mk2 Wicked Red VTS

    #20 18th December 2010, 16:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by olibond hope i wont get bored lol, compared to my company car 2.5d nirvara, the acceleration is insane, pretty fast in my opinion, if i had a vts id probably wrap it round in a tree in 5 minutes

    you will get bored. the end.
21. olibond L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 devon Posts: 70 white mark 1 saxo vtr, 2.5d nissan nirvara

    #21 18th December 2010, 16:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ashleyoneill you will get bored. the end.

    cheers lol, will just have to keep moddin it then,
22. ashleyoneill Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Chippenham, Wiltshire Posts: 796 Mk2 Wicked Red VTS

    #22 18th December 2010, 16:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by olibond cheers lol, will just have to keep moddin it then,

    16 valve it. then modify it.
23. merc2546 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2010 swindon Posts: 225 1.1i

    #23 18th December 2010, 17:00

    haha y did u chose to spin it up when the weather is shit out
24. olibond L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 devon Posts: 70 white mark 1 saxo vtr, 2.5d nissan nirvara

    #24 18th December 2010, 17:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ashleyoneill 16 valve it. then modify it.

    16 valve it?, would love to but the big question is whether to declare it, my insurance would go from 3600 to like 10000000000000000.
25. user_38198 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 West Mids Posts: 1847 Peugeot 106 1.1

    #25 18th December 2010, 17:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ashleyoneill you are joking right?? These are consumables - clutch - new battery The rest are not.

    Whats the age and mileage of your car?
26. olibond L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 devon Posts: 70 white mark 1 saxo vtr, 2.5d nissan nirvara

    #26 18th December 2010, 17:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by merc2546 haha y did u chose to spin it up when the weather is shit out

    werent bad where i did it, up through a gritted clear of snow estate, no snow on the road, if the weather was that bad then id take the nirvara out instead of the vtr.werent the weather that did it, it was my 13 year old car components and my eager feet.
27. ashleyoneill Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Chippenham, Wiltshire Posts: 796 Mk2 Wicked Red VTS

    #27 18th December 2010, 17:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Meto Whats the age and mileage of your car?

    Doesn't matter how old it is. If they were engineered to a higher standard in the first place then it would not have needed so much doing to it.
28. ashleyoneill Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Chippenham, Wiltshire Posts: 796 Mk2 Wicked Red VTS

    #28 18th December 2010, 17:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by olibond werent bad where i did it, up through a gritted clear of snow estate, no snow on the road, if the weather was that bad then id take the nirvara out instead of the vtr.werent the weather that did it, it was my 13 year old car components and my eager feet.

    13 year old component probably is a very small factor. I'd say dropping the clutch at 6250 RPM was your biggest problem
29. xxo0pko0xx Established Member Joined: May 2009 cleethorpes, Lincolnshire Posts: 1830 Astra 2006 (55) 1.9 cdti 150 sri 192hp 322ftlb

    #29 18th December 2010, 17:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by olibond if u want a vtr when your 18 m8 these r the prices lol, savage init

    i didnt pay 300 a month for my vtr :/ im 19 now and pay 90 a month. cant complain with that really
30. user_38198 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 West Mids Posts: 1847 Peugeot 106 1.1

    #30 18th December 2010, 17:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ashleyoneill Doesn't matter how old it is. If they were engineered to a higher standard in the first place then it would not have needed so much doing to it.

    Yes but they are only like 12k brand new so why should they build a supermini from the 1990s to a high standard? If its build quality you are looking for then a saxo/106 isn't the best is it?
    
    You may have just been unlucky in that you own the car at a time when its OEM parts are wearing out.
31. ashleyoneill Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Chippenham, Wiltshire Posts: 796 Mk2 Wicked Red VTS

    #31 18th December 2010, 17:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Meto Yes but they are only like 12k brand new so why should they build a supermini from the 1990s to a high standard? If its build quality you are looking for then a saxo/106 isn't the best is it? You may have just been unlucky in that you own the car at a time when its OEM parts are wearing out.

    Agreed
32. Morgzc Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Colchester/Coventry Posts: 2809 92 Mx5

    #32 18th December 2010, 17:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by olibond insurance for new drivers has gone up 51 percent in last year though, its ridiculous, i searched everywhere, all the comparison place, and rang up loads of insurers direct aswell. in my opinion its worth it though, ive wanted one since i was 15.hapy to work hard to run it, itll go down loads after a year no claims n e way.

    This year at 18 I got a quote of £1600.
33. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #33 18th December 2010, 17:44

    Not everyone gets bored of their stuff. Some people like what they have. Others don't care and always want better.
34. titchster Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5

    #34 18th December 2010, 17:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ashleyoneill you are joking right?? These are consumables - clutch - new battery The rest are not.

    Drop links are, especially if it's lowered. They have rubber seals, rubber perishes no matter what car it's on. Same goes for engine mounts. Trailing arm bearings, well, they're bearings, expect them to wear over time. Rust, i'm sure it was pretty minor compared to how badly some cars get it, and how soon (i've seen a 54 plate Ka with rust around the rear wiper and filler cap).
    
    
    
    
    
    In regards to the OP, erm, Saxo boxes aren't particularly strong, you might wanna learn to treat them with mechanical sympathy, otherwise it'll not be the only one you go through.
35. baker556 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 127.0.0.1 Posts: 4826 oem+ sax

    #35 18th December 2010, 18:01

    i Lol'ed
    
    Was it snow/ice then it gripped which caused it to rip the diff apart?
36. olibond L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 devon Posts: 70 white mark 1 saxo vtr, 2.5d nissan nirvara

    #36 18th December 2010, 18:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by baker556 i Lol'ed Was it snow/ice then it gripped which caused it to rip the diff apart?

    no, just stupid drivin,
37. olibond L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 devon Posts: 70 white mark 1 saxo vtr, 2.5d nissan nirvara

    #37 18th December 2010, 18:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Morgzc This year at 18 I got a quote of £1600.

    where?!??!?!?!?, tell me now
38. TheWorx Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Belfast Posts: 225 Peugeot 307 1.4 8v

    #38 18th December 2010, 18:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vtr_HBO Snap! I also only paid £998 for insurance as newbie driver of a MK2 Vtr! now im on a MK1 vtr 4 years on and its £510

    I got insured on a vtr for 2 shillings 50 years back
39. Morgzc Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Colchester/Coventry Posts: 2809 92 Mx5

    #39 18th December 2010, 18:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by olibond where?!??!?!?!?, tell me now

    Replied to your pm. That was with mods too btw!
40. olibond L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 devon Posts: 70 white mark 1 saxo vtr, 2.5d nissan nirvara

    #40 18th December 2010, 18:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Morgzc Replied to your pm. That was with mods too btw!

    ye cheers m8, fair, im paying 3.6k a year third party fire theft on a vtr with no declared mods, takes the piss, with admiral, LOL
41. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #41 18th December 2010, 18:31

    Christ thats the only thing good about being an old git(43 ys old) £230.00 a year fully comp insurance.Mk1 vtr.
    
    Steve.
42. lilwayne Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Yateley Posts: 464 1.1 saxo

    #42 18th December 2010, 19:10

    fuck paying 3600 for a vtr rather stick to a 1.1 . thats why are insurances goes up up because kids get vtrs for first cars and write them off
43. olibond L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 devon Posts: 70 white mark 1 saxo vtr, 2.5d nissan nirvara

    #43 18th December 2010, 21:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lilwayne fuck paying 3600 for a vtr rather stick to a 1.1 . thats why are insurances goes up up because kids get vtrs for first cars and write them off

    hasnt happened yet to me, yer there quite fast but they aint ferraris, what bout all those rich spoilt kids out there drivin mumy and dadys porsche around, them mainly the cause
44. user_42401 Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Cupar Fife Posts: 1712 1600 16v VTS 1600 8v VTR 1400 16v Clio Sport

    #44 18th December 2010, 21:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by olibond if u want a vtr when your 18 m8 these r the prices lol, savage init

    when i was 17 i had a vtr full comp at 900 lol
45. user_48207 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 downpatrick, ireland Posts: 199 saxo vtr mk1 1.5 diesel 106 donor tddi focus

    #45 18th December 2010, 21:52

    if your with admiral ring them up and put your mum and dad our who ever on as named drivers and it will come down in price
46. olibond L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 devon Posts: 70 white mark 1 saxo vtr, 2.5d nissan nirvara

    #46 18th December 2010, 22:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Decky-vtr if your with admiral ring them up and put your mum and dad our who ever on as named drivers and it will come down in price

    ye have done that