Important! : Anti Freeze

1. GTuff Established Member Joined: Apr 2007 Alderley Edge,Cheshire Posts: 1048 1.6 VT?

   #1 20th December 2010, 14:17

   right now as we all know fuk loads of snow i jus got back from uni to find my car has no antifreeze in it, bin locked up in the garage so it been on
   
   but how much antifreeze to water do i need to put in
   
   1.6 8v
   
   cheer guys
2. user_31412 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 ★ West / North Yorkshire ★ Posts: 1653

   #2 20th December 2010, 14:26

   50/50 antifreeze/water - but make sure its the same type as what is in. If not, drain it out and start from fresh
3. GTuff Established Member Joined: Apr 2007 Alderley Edge,Cheshire Posts: 1048 1.6 VT?

   #3 20th December 2010, 14:29

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by outrage_uk 50/50 antifreeze/water - but make sure its the same type as what is in. If not, drain it out and start from fresh

   yea fuk knows whats in it already
   
   easy way to drain? pull bottom pipe off?
   
   ta
4. Railroader Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Bolton Posts: 1068 Saxo 1.4i sx

   #4 20th December 2010, 14:30

   I just drain and put a litre bottle in. Does fine
5. user_31412 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 ★ West / North Yorkshire ★ Posts: 1653

   #5 20th December 2010, 14:32

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by GTuff easy way to drain? pull bottom pipe off?

   Yep thats what I do
6. Krys_23 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6543

   #6 20th December 2010, 14:35

   I fired two litres in mine.
7. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #7 20th December 2010, 15:33

   read the back of the bottle. Usually helps
   I've had to deal with two cars with too little antifreeze in today so people need to make sure they have the right mixture for -15degree winter temps rather than a summer blend.
8. Krys_23 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6543

   #8 20th December 2010, 15:36

   I had a right laugh myself, my water pipes were frozen so thought ohh dear.. awaiting for damage to show up, but i got away with it ( i think ) i waited until it thawed then started flushing warm water through the system, which took all ice out the pipes then fired in two litres of anti-freeze to water , job done With no leaks after
9. ashbuster Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2010 walsall Posts: 479 mk4 golf gti 1.8 turbo (AUM)

   #9 20th December 2010, 15:37

   i put 3 in mine when i did it
10. GTuff Established Member Joined: Apr 2007 Alderley Edge,Cheshire Posts: 1048 1.6 VT?

    #10 20th December 2010, 17:39

    yea ash im leaning to pack 3 liters in looked in the good old haynes manual showing coolant capacity at 5.8L so 50/50 makes 3l! incase i have a leak i dunno about
    
    cant wait to get the car runnin back again
11. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #11 20th December 2010, 17:55

    I normally out 2-3 liters in.
    
    Then test it with a Tester.
12. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #12 20th December 2010, 17:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GTuff yea ash im leaning to pack 3 liters in looked in the good old haynes manual showing coolant capacity at 5.8L so 50/50 makes 3l! incase i have a leak i dunno about cant wait to get the car runnin back again

    Better hope you got no cracks lol
13. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

    #13 20th December 2010, 17:57

    i dont have a tester to test it with
14. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #14 20th December 2010, 18:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VTHall i dont have a tester to test it with

    They only like a few quid lol.
15. GTuff Established Member Joined: Apr 2007 Alderley Edge,Cheshire Posts: 1048 1.6 VT?

    #15 20th December 2010, 20:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bikekid450 Better hope you got no cracks lol

    yea dont rate will have any cracks cars been in perfect condition since i got it, what tester are you talkin about? cant be that necessary as ive not herd of ppl testin their coolant?
16. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #16 21st December 2010, 10:02

    If you mix the right amount, it's not a must but you can test it if you're not sure how much you should have put in, it'll say if it's not enough or too much.
17. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #17 21st December 2010, 10:04

    Im gonna rage out and shove loads on my 307 today. Over heats every journey in this weather, think the rad and themostat are freezing up lol, no heat inside the car either
18. cossie0_4 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 146

    #18 21st December 2010, 11:03

    also the water system will need bleeding afterwards mate
19. Matt-T Established Member Joined: Oct 2010 Rednal Posts: 1943 Vauxhall Vectra VW Golf Mk4 Honda Prelude

    #19 21st December 2010, 11:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by db_sax Im gonna rage out and shove loads on my 307 today. Over heats every journey in this weather, think the rad and themostat are freezing up lol, no heat inside the car either

    Either that or Headgasket.
    
    
    
    Also an easy(ish) way to drain coolant is to remove expansion cap, put a hose pipe is possible (if not a mop bucket full of water is ok)l.
    
    - Remove return pipe from engine. Dangle over front of car into a suitable container
    - Start car, coolant in the car will start to come out. Slowly top the expansion tank up with water from bucket ( or set hose to slow speed to match that of water coming out)
    -After about 4/5minutes start to poor anti-freeze in, keep pooring until the water coming out the re-turn pipe turns blue/pink. Stop hose/bucket feeding Stop the engine. Put the return hose on. (by this time i had put 1L in)
    - Put rest of required anti-freeze in 1/2L so u know the required amount is in
    - Check level it should be just under the mark on the expansion botttle. top up with water, run engine for abit. See if it drops/raises.
    
    Job done. I did this with my other car as bottom hose wasnt "open access"
20. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #20 21st December 2010, 11:17

    Nah aint HG, just the cold when its below -6ish
21. user_30040 Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Bridlington Posts: 1496 Audi A3

    #21 21st December 2010, 11:31

    -11 where i live need a detailed guide on how to bleed please
22. GTuff Established Member Joined: Apr 2007 Alderley Edge,Cheshire Posts: 1048 1.6 VT?

    #22 21st December 2010, 12:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tally2425 -11 where i live need a detailed guide on how to bleed please

    fuk that jus pushin -8 here and that cold enough dad bought me 2l of lovly antifreeze gonna try find a guide to bleed system or if any one has knowledge please share
23. user_30040 Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Bridlington Posts: 1496 Audi A3

    #23 21st December 2010, 12:11

    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...74#post4963374
    
    Link should help, Also you may need to bleed it through the nipples aswell to let air out (i think)

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24. user_30040 Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Bridlington Posts: 1496 Audi A3

    #24 21st December 2010, 12:13

    Also another guide, I think the engine should be off when doing this not sure tho any help would be gd
    
    Bleeding The System
    
    Before we start i must insist that you get a propper header tank to sit into the expansion tank (costs about £18.00 from citroen) This will savle you alot of time if any air is trapped in the heater matrix.
    
    There Are 3 Bleeding Points That Need To Be Done In Sequence Starting With The Lowest.
    
    Open All Bleeding Points Up Until A Steady Supply Of Water Emerges without Bubbles.
    
    Bleed Points Are:
    
    1. Top Right Of The Radiator(Small Plastic Clip)
    2. Top Of Thermostast Housing (5mm Allen Key, Just Right Of The Rocker Cover)
    3. Drivers Side Of Engine, Looks Like A valve cap
    
    Keep the water and antifreeze going in until a trickle of water shoots out of the first bleeding point without stopping... do this for the other 2 and then leave car on fast idle (1000rpm) until the fan kicks in 2 or 3 times...
    
    Let the car cool down and then check water levels

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25. GTuff Established Member Joined: Apr 2007 Alderley Edge,Cheshire Posts: 1048 1.6 VT?

    #25 21st December 2010, 13:56

    cheers lads jus done it now was easier then i expected i ran the engine flushed it all out and it was nice and clear, put the coolant n water in and jus bled it throught the bleeding points, took him out for a spin for half n hour no problems or any lights love havin a car with 34,000 miles !
26. user_30040 Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Bridlington Posts: 1496 Audi A3

    #26 21st December 2010, 14:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GTuff cheers lads jus done it now was easier then i expected i ran the engine flushed it all out and it was nice and clear, put the coolant n water in and jus bled it throught the bleeding points, took him out for a spin for half n hour no problems or any lights love havin a car with 34,000 miles !

    my cars on 56k , So you just kept filling the tank up then opened the 1st point on the rad? then closed that up let it run to the 2nd? then close that up then on third? did you have the car running whilst you was doing this?
27. GTuff Established Member Joined: Apr 2007 Alderley Edge,Cheshire Posts: 1048 1.6 VT?

    #27 21st December 2010, 14:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tally2425 my cars on 56k , So you just kept filling the tank up then opened the 1st point on the rad? then closed that up let it run to the 2nd? then close that up then on third? did you have the car running whilst you was doing this?

    yea pretty much i found that the expansion tank was between min and max so had to get a fair bit out of the system so easiest way was i took the valve cap off the drivers side of the engine near the injectors then rev it once up to temp so a fair bit came out then jus put in my antifreeze (2L) then toped up with bit of water then bled each one as in the guide then went for a spin.
28. user_30040 Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Bridlington Posts: 1496 Audi A3

    #28 21st December 2010, 14:27

    haha i did that took the cap off and it shot out like a fountain? did that happen to you lol?
29. user_31412 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 ★ West / North Yorkshire ★ Posts: 1653

    #29 21st December 2010, 14:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tally2425 haha i did that took the cap off and it shot out like a fountain? did that happen to you lol?

    Thats a good sign
    
    I thought I had a 50/50 mix in mine but last night at -10 it froze so obviously halfords antifreeze needs more - in my case i put in another 2 litres - watch the bastard weather warm up now
30. user_30040 Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Bridlington Posts: 1496 Audi A3

    #30 21st December 2010, 14:37

    So the fountain is a good sign ha, Ill just add more anti freeze , its not bad for it
31. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

    #31 21st December 2010, 14:41

    yeah it should shoot out like my spunk does out of my 12 inch cock.
32. GTuff Established Member Joined: Apr 2007 Alderley Edge,Cheshire Posts: 1048 1.6 VT?

    #32 21st December 2010, 14:44

    haha @VTHall
    
    @tally2454 i took my expansion tank cap off when the engine was cold so didnt burn ma face