Saxo VTR/Furio

1. johnnyboy6 Newbie Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 10

   #1 30th December 2010, 17:10

   Hi All, I'm new here. I know this will sound stupid, but can you decrease the displacement of an engine? It is because i want to get into rallying and in the BTRDA, there is class B8, which is 8 valve 1400 cc engines. can i decrease the displacement of a VTR engine which I think are 8 valve engines, by changing parts over from a Furio engine? Has this ever been done before (unlikely too) lol. Anyway, Thanks Guys and Girls
   
   John
2. user_39740 Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 near manchester Posts: 1190 vtr'd FURIO....

   #2 30th December 2010, 17:24

   Yes it can,
3. johnnyboy6 Newbie Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 10

   #3 30th December 2010, 17:28

   What do you mean? If you can do it, what parts do you need to change it? Is it very expensive or can you take parts off a Furio engine? How long would it take to do? Can I do it myself, or is it a hard job?
   
   Thanks John
4. Quick Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 7064

   #4 30th December 2010, 17:28

   Go for a S1 106 rallye engine - 100bhp from a 1.3.
5. Mark51p Super Moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Wakefield Posts: 14427 Golf GT

   #5 30th December 2010, 17:29

   engine transplant would be alot easier imo, then sell your vtr engine on
6. johnnyboy6 Newbie Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 10

   #6 30th December 2010, 17:36

   Thanks, What is the tuning like for a S1 Rallye engine? What BHP can they go up to, Is it expensive to tune?
   
   Thanks, John
7. user_21226 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 wirral Posts: 6348 Icelandic vtr turbo

   #7 30th December 2010, 20:06

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by johnnyboy6 Thanks, What is the tuning like for a S1 Rallye engine? What BHP can they go up to, Is it expensive to tune? Thanks, John

   all depends on the money you want to pump into it but id say go for a s1 rallye engine over a furio anyday
8. johnnyboy6 Newbie Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 10

   #8 30th December 2010, 20:20

   Could you get it up to about 140+ bhp? How much would it cost? What would you need to get it up to that power?
   
   Thanks, John
9. Dave_P Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI

   #9 30th December 2010, 21:23

   A 1360cc 106 xsi motor would be the best choice.
   
   PM Garry.M on the 106RR if your serious about it.
10. johnnyboy6 Newbie Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 10

    #10 30th December 2010, 21:48

    I thought a 106 1.3 Rallye had 16V not 8V. What BHP would a 106 Rallye have, with Cams, Air Filter and Induction Kit, Throttlebodies, Inlet, Exhaust, Remap, or standalone Management, work on the head. is there any good Recomendations on any of these? Is there anything else. I've seen people using Motorbike Parts, like GSXR TB's and Inlet, What about these
    
    Thanks, John
11. Dave_P Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI

    #11 30th December 2010, 21:55

    Only the 106GTi/Saxo VTS are 16v.
    
    Depends on spec really, only 1 cam on the 106 Rallye mind... you should see around 115 - 120 with headwork, decent cam, bodies etc mapped to suit.
12. johnnyboy6 Newbie Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 10

    #12 30th December 2010, 22:09

    Okay, Thanks. What would the price be to do all of the things that you mentioned?
13. Dave_P Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI

    #13 30th December 2010, 22:12

    Dunno, you'd need to look into it.
    
    Not cheap needless to say.
14. johnnyboy6 Newbie Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 10

    #14 31st December 2010, 00:53

    The Engines are quite rare aren't they? well if you are just going to buy the engine. Does anyone have one of these for sale? Do you know anyone that sells them?
    
    John
15. johnnyboy6 Newbie Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 10

    #15 31st December 2010, 19:13

    What's the most someone has got out of a Furio? what mods did they use? How much did it cost them. Thanks John What would I have to do to reduce the displacement of a VTR? What would the BHP be if I reduced the Disiplacement be? Would it stay the same BHP or would it go down? If so by how much? Whats the most BHP someone has tuned a VTR to. Thanks, John
16. johnnyboy6 Newbie Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 10

    #16 4th January 2011, 21:58

    What's the most someone has tuned a 1.3 Rallye? What can you tune a 106 Rallye up to at a reasonable price? Anyone???
17. Andy2907 Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Hereford Posts: 326 2001 Fiesta Zetec S - Red

    #17 8th January 2011, 19:22

    Your best off asking someone on the 106oc theres some mental cars on there.
18. johnnyboy6 Newbie Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 10

    #18 22nd January 2011, 22:39

    okay, thanks guys. so you don't recon the vtr engine would be any good??? just out of interest though, is it actually possible to reduce the displacement of an engine like the vtr to 1.4??? would the power stay the same or would it go down?? thanks guys and girls