Harness question..?

1. Sexooo Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Farnborough/Hampshire Posts: 643 Citroen saxo

   #1 31st December 2010, 19:52

   So I bought these today for £150.
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   Just a quick question as I was told by someone that I can't use the harness with back seats?
   
   Is this true or is there a way of getting around it and keeping the back seats in??
   
   I really don't want to use standard belts.
   
   Cheers, Mike.
2. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

   #2 31st December 2010, 20:02

   Not bad going but i have something that will make you sick......
   
   A few years back almost to the day i picked up 2 cobra monaco s seats, subframes and harnesses for £200
   
   You will struggles to mount the harnesses well without taking the rear seats out.
3. Sexooo Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Farnborough/Hampshire Posts: 643 Citroen saxo

   #3 31st December 2010, 20:13

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by DanT Not bad going but i have something that will make you sick...... A few years back almost to the day i picked up 2 cobra monaco s seats, subframes and harnesses for £200 You will struggles to mount the harnesses well without taking the rear seats out.

   Fair play mate, these are just what i needed recliners, harness and sub frames.
   
   Can't go wrong lol, isit possible tho if so how?
4. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

   #4 31st December 2010, 20:16

   I think i have seen it done in some photos but looks silly.
5. Roper Established Member Joined: Feb 2006 Derbyshire Posts: 1815 Black 106 GTi Turbo

   #5 31st December 2010, 20:16

   you can keep the rear seats in, but they're not really going to be of any use tbh,
   
   as the harnesses will be bolted to the car floor and/or existing rear seat bolt mounts
6. Sexooo Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Farnborough/Hampshire Posts: 643 Citroen saxo

   #6 31st December 2010, 20:17

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by DanT I think i have seen it done in some photos but looks silly.

   Ok, isit worth just keeping hold of the harness for when and if i strip it and use normal seatbelts?
7. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

   #7 31st December 2010, 20:25

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Sexooo Ok, isit worth just keeping hold of the harness for when and if i strip it and use normal seatbelts?

   My monacos went in without harnesses and mine was fully ripped out apart from dash board. I sold them for £50 on ebay. Put the balance of "as new" monacos and subframes at £150 all in, not bad
8. crabzy Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Leyland Posts: 1998 have to find out ;)

   #8 31st December 2010, 20:48

   i wouldn't use the harnesses tbh in less your doing track days tbh .
   and as said before you be better taking rear bench out tbh
   and for £150 bit of a barging tbh mate .
   i payed £100 for buckets then 1 sub frame £50 then seat belts was £50 so £200 on one seat .
9. Sexooo Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Farnborough/Hampshire Posts: 643 Citroen saxo

   #9 31st December 2010, 20:53

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by crabzy i wouldn't use the harnesses tbh in less your doing track days tbh . and as said before you be better taking rear bench out tbh and for £150 bit of a barging tbh mate . i payed £100 for buckets then 1 sub frame £50 then seat belts was £50 so £200 on one seat .

   
   I was gonna take back seats out untill the girlfriend was like 'you promised me we can go out with my friends' -.- aha!
10. Manu Saxperience Addict Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 11714 A6 Le Mans tuned/A3 TFSI tuned

    #10 31st December 2010, 20:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sexooo Just a quick question as I was told by someone that I can't use the harness with back seats?

    you could always ask your passengers to seat on the harness.
    
    

    Quote:

    'you promised me we can go out with my friends' -.- aha!

    You promised? Well, bad news, you're up shit creek without a paddle. She will soon realize carrying friends at the back will not happen. Worse: you could have bought a brand new gear box+ clutch for the price of those 3 used gearboxes and seats.
    
    
    Oh well, I know I am typing all this for sod all since you never listen to people's advice, unless it goes the way you decided in the first place... Judging by the looks of your seats, should have bought some VTR/VTS/GTI seats instead of going for the cheap seats/harness .
11. crabzy Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Leyland Posts: 1998 have to find out ;)

    #11 31st December 2010, 20:57

    Quote:

    I was gonna take back seats out untill the girlfriend was like 'you promised me we can go out with my friends' -.- aha!

    i tell them to walk .

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12. Manu Saxperience Addict Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 11714 A6 Le Mans tuned/A3 TFSI tuned

    #12 31st December 2010, 21:04

    You almost posted in the right section(styling). Unless the girlfriend is the problem.

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13. Sexooo Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Farnborough/Hampshire Posts: 643 Citroen saxo

    #13 31st December 2010, 21:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Manu you could always ask your passengers to seat on the harness. You promised? Well, bad news, you're up shit creek without a paddle. She will soon realize carrying friends at the back will not happen. Worse: you could have bought a brand new gear box+ clutch for the price of those 3 used gearboxes and seats. Oh well, I know I am typing all this for sod all since you never listen to people's advice, unless it goes the way you decided in the first place... Judging by the looks of your seats, should have bought some VTR/VTS/GTI seats instead of going for the cheap seats/harness .

    
    My mate does gearboxes and hes doing it for £80 so i've got more than enough for the gearbox. Its getting fixed this weekend hopefully! Cheers tho bud.
14. Manu Saxperience Addict Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 11714 A6 Le Mans tuned/A3 TFSI tuned

    #14 31st December 2010, 21:09

    Or maybe you should just slow down, so you don't go through so many gearboxes.
    
    

    Quote:

    My mate does gearboxes and hes doing it for £80

    At a rate of 3 per month, £240 seems a lot. Makes subarus maintenance look cheap tbh.
15. Sexooo Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Farnborough/Hampshire Posts: 643 Citroen saxo

    #15 31st December 2010, 21:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Manu Or maybe you should just slow down, so you don't go through so many gearboxes. At a rate of 3 per month, £240 seems a lot. Makes subarus maintenance look cheap tbh.

    
    I haven't been through 3 mate, i had the one i had in the car when bought that was fucked. The one i put in which i fucked now need a new one
16. Manu Saxperience Addict Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 11714 A6 Le Mans tuned/A3 TFSI tuned

    #16 31st December 2010, 21:25

    You do know you should change your clutch at the same time, don't you?
17. Sexooo Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Farnborough/Hampshire Posts: 643 Citroen saxo

    #17 31st December 2010, 21:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Manu You do know you should change your clutch at the same time, don't you?

    
    Yeh
18. Drew_Ramsay Newbie Joined: Dec 2010 Blairgowrie Posts: 28 Saxo 1.5D Desire

    #18 4th January 2011, 10:03

    Mate I'm having a similar problem trying to find a way to use harnesses and still have functional rear seats, one thing I have came across some people have had a bar made and fitted to the floor right behind the front seat/rear seat footwell and the harnesses are attached to that. Dont know if that would be any help to you?
19. Gary-VTR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 Colchester/Harwich, Essex Posts: 2208 EG Civic Turbo & CRX Del Sol VTi

    #19 4th January 2011, 10:10

    You may as well go the whole hog and strip it if you want harnesses. Improperly installed harnesses can literally kill you in the event of a crash.
    
    Big risk to take just for bragging rights, no?
    
    &To quote an article on HondaClub:
    

    Quote:

    Also note that unless your seatbelt is really unsafe or old, a racing harness is truly unnecessary. OEM engineers spend lots of money and research in making your car safe. They DO know what they are doing after all.

20. moxy89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Southampton Posts: 8188 Astra vxr with added boost

    #20 4th January 2011, 11:06

    look really nice mate
    
    And £200 for monacos aint that cheap i got a set with saxo subframes, sabelts harness in good condition for £130, sold them for profit and got a suzuka pro for next to nothing, and then pick up MINT gti leather for £80. i am a bargin seat hunter

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21. Sexooo Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Farnborough/Hampshire Posts: 643 Citroen saxo

    #21 4th January 2011, 14:07

    I've now stripped the car lol
22. danny-vts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2010 Chesterfield/Nottingham Posts: 7147 dead vts. twisted 106 gti. '03' vtrrrr

    #22 4th January 2011, 15:14

    but the question is...can u put it back together with no left over nuts or bolts lol
23. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

    #23 4th January 2011, 16:32

    Harnesses should be attached the the harness bar of the rollcage.
    
    buckets + harnesses + NO cage = FAIL, massive potential for broken neck/back.
24. dougal280 Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2010 dundee Posts: 132 mango west coast mk1

    #24 5th January 2011, 18:11

    not a fan of these seats! conras ftw!
25. JFox Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2010 Valleys - South Wales Posts: 256 Saxo Mk2 1.1i Forte

    #25 5th January 2011, 18:16

    standard seats ftw!
    
    stuff all the hastle just for bragging rights
26. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #26 5th January 2011, 18:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by moxy89 look really nice mate And £200 for monacos aint that cheap i got a set with saxo subframes, sabelts harness in good condition for £130, sold them for profit and got a suzuka pro for next to nothing, and then pick up MINT gti leather for £80. i am a bargin seat hunter

    Agreed £200 is abit too much lol, got mine for £130 when I had some too.