whats a good braking system for my citreon saxo vts 1998

1. bridgey1234 Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 glasgow Posts: 583 citroen saxo vts 1998 Citroen saxo furio 03 c2 gt

   #1 10th January 2011, 16:16

   whats a good braking system for my citreon saxo vts 1998
   
   looking for something that will stop me quicker and better
   
   cheers
2. user_38486 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Blackburn Posts: 4739 A few

   #2 10th January 2011, 16:19

   306 GTi-6 set up
   283mm discs & decent set of pads
   Wilwood 4pots
   406 coupe brembos
   
   Use some decent brake fluid too
3. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #3 10th January 2011, 16:22

   First you need to uprate your tyres. These ultimately will improve the friction coefficient between the road and your car.
   You then need to uprate the suspension to control weight transfer forward under braking.
   Then I would recommend simply uprating the pad compound.
   
   If you are overheating your brakes then you need bigger discs but otherwise they just add to unsprung weight and spoil the handling.
   Generally all a big brake upgrade will do is change the pedal feel rather than improve braking. As long as a brake system can lock the wheels then maximum braking is being achieved.

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4. user_37194 Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 rotherham Posts: 1832 Be scirocco, full on 03plate track spec Saxo

   #4 10th January 2011, 16:26

   full track set up would be something like,
   -23mm mc,
   -fully braided lines
   -wilwood bias valve or simlare
   -4pots, brembos, hispecs, willwoods.
   -then some good pads and disks all round.
   
   but tht kind of set up will cost you around the 800quid mark
5. bridgey1234 Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 glasgow Posts: 583 citroen saxo vts 1998 Citroen saxo furio 03 c2 gt

   #5 10th January 2011, 16:27

   thanks for this m8 i will try this and see what happens
   
   cheers
6. jonshepherd L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 Southampton Posts: 62 Mk2 Saxo VTS

   #6 20th August 2012, 14:51

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by KamRacing Generally all a big brake upgrade will do is change the pedal feel rather than improve braking. As long as a brake system can lock the wheels then maximum braking is being achieved.

   If this is true (I'm not doubting it), why do high performance cars have bigger (and often more pistons) in the calipers?
7. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

   #7 20th August 2012, 15:08

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by bridgey1234 whats a good braking system for my citreon saxo vts 1998

   the standard one working properly will suffice, bigger brakes WILL NOT stop you faster, they will however stop you time and time again with less overheating, which is not a concern on the road.
   
   
   the reason larger cars have more pistons is to clamp a much larger pad more evenly, and also to exert a higher pressure on the pads, however they have so much more mechanical grip (i.e suspension and tyres) and are able to brake much harder.
8. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #8 21st August 2012, 11:31

   ony track vtr im running completely standard with cl brakes rc5+ pads and ap 5.1 fluid
   no braided lines no bigger discs no nothing and theyve never missed a beat and i can outbrake a lot of cars on track
   
   ive ran wilwoods, high specs, 266, ect and tbh the setup i have now is on par with all of them
   
   the bigger stuff looks nice but you can feel the extra weight onbthe hubs

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9. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #9 21st August 2012, 19:33

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jonshepherd If this is true (I'm not doubting it), why do high performance cars have bigger (and often more pistons) in the calipers?

   usually the cars are heavier and much faster, need more force to slow the car and this generates more heat.
   The reason for multi pot calipers is due to the fact they use large pads. These pads cool faster, but you need more expensive calipers to evenly press the whole pad surface to the disc.
   Also the customers expect fancy brakes whether it will help them stop quicker or not...
   As welshpug mentioned. Something like a Porsche will have far superior outright grip, control of weight transfer so it can use better brakes to greater effect.