Impressive thing at autosport.

1. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

   #1 14th January 2011, 18:16

   The most impressive thing i saw at autosport (innovation wise) was at the eibach stand. they have developed hollow anti roll bars. they have one on a stand next to an h&r item. the weight saving is dramatic. over 40%
2. Matt-T Established Member Joined: Oct 2010 Rednal Posts: 1943 Vauxhall Vectra VW Golf Mk4 Honda Prelude

   #2 14th January 2011, 18:49

   I also saw these today, and the Saxmax saxo. I have a picture somewhere. Is just one ace car show
3. user_28902 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 peterborough Posts: 4296 dead vtr :( now 16v vtr ;)

   #3 14th January 2011, 20:08

   was ther today too, and was bloody awesome..
   you see the live arena stuff?
   some of the engines were insane..
4. harry289 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 Lincolnshire Posts: 1633 Icelandic Grey Saxo VTR

   #4 14th January 2011, 20:31

   poor fiesta rally x car that smashed in the arena :\
   
   saxmax saxo was for sale
   
   i watched some of the karting later on in the day. some of the crashes looked brutal! haha
5. user_28902 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 peterborough Posts: 4296 dead vtr :( now 16v vtr ;)

   #5 14th January 2011, 21:32

   the reliant robins haha.. few roled em was hilarious..
   thought was gna be f1 car tho ..
   and that saxo was for sale? how much?
   and yea bet mateys dad was gutted about the fiesat, was funny tho.
   and terry grant in the evo was incredible, sounded sooo good
6. harry289 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 Lincolnshire Posts: 1633 Icelandic Grey Saxo VTR

   #6 14th January 2011, 21:54

   that evo popped like nothing else iv heard. constant flame on tick over after aha. 3 wheelers aha. just rolled them and then pushed themselves back upright. must be a good laugh.
   
   not sure on price matey
7. user_28902 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 peterborough Posts: 4296 dead vtr :( now 16v vtr ;)

   #7 14th January 2011, 22:42

   the poppong was insane, and yea flaming sooo much, looked immense..
   well ther was that red 3 wheeler that couldnt get himself back up, the otehr 1 managed to rock himself back up..
   u have a go in the drift caterham or the karting??
8. user_38615 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 Birmingham Posts: 2073 Current - 56 1.9 astra Sri Owned - 54 C2 GT. Ow

   #8 14th January 2011, 23:18

   spotted you at autosport show come on own up who owns it
   lool
   
9. harry289 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 Lincolnshire Posts: 1633 Icelandic Grey Saxo VTR

   #9 14th January 2011, 23:18

   nahh i'm tight for money. saving really hard for some track goodies.
   
   watched the karting a lot. some well beastly crashes after the pit straight. made me lol.
   
   did you at all?
10. harry289 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 Lincolnshire Posts: 1633 Icelandic Grey Saxo VTR

    #10 14th January 2011, 23:19

    theres that saxmax. probably some lucky 14-17 year old owns it atm...
11. dougieph2 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 livingston Posts: 4174 Honda CRX!

    #11 14th January 2011, 23:19

    would strength be compromised with the ARB being hollow though?
12. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #12 14th January 2011, 23:43

    what kind of strength do you want for the arb? and that Ferguson motorsport saxo copied westbourne motorsport's colour scheme. now they look the same. ish
13. dougieph2 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 livingston Posts: 4174 Honda CRX!

    #13 14th January 2011, 23:54

    enough strength that it wont crack
14. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

    #14 15th January 2011, 00:10

    they did a test in the redline mag and the arb is hollow but has a hex internal so is actually stronger in the ways of torsion than the solid metal bar.
15. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #15 15th January 2011, 00:20

    hex internal. very clever. i wonder if it is die'd into a long bar, then bent into shape, somehow keeping the hex true
16. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #16 15th January 2011, 00:20

    maybe it's a mandrel die. so the die moves and bends the form as it makes it. that would work
17. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

    #17 15th January 2011, 01:01

    i have no clue i just saw the one they cut in half and thought you clever fucker's 2 times the surface area inside a tube that's some clever shit.
18. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #18 15th January 2011, 01:03

    the thing that impresses me is hollow sprung steel. just never seen it done before. the hexagon shape must be a key when using sprung materials
19. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

    #19 15th January 2011, 01:06

    must be something to do with it unless its just easier to keep it lightweight whilst being able to take the torsion forces they face. apparently wrc teams have being using these in a trial basis for around 2 years i did a google search lol.
20. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #20 15th January 2011, 01:09

    those crafty wrc teams. shows you where the £500,000 goes into those cars. prototype everything
21. harry289 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 Lincolnshire Posts: 1633 Icelandic Grey Saxo VTR

    #21 15th January 2011, 11:24

    when i went to prodrive every part of the car was made by themselves, from their own materials, own plans and spcifications, and so only their tools will fit.
22. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #22 15th January 2011, 11:37

    got to love prodrive
23. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

    #23 15th January 2011, 13:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by harry289 when i went to prodrive every part of the car was made by themselves, from their own materials, own plans and spcifications, and so only their tools will fit.

    this is true the bloke at work use to work for prodrive welding cages in there rally cars and he has a prodrive .5mm star (not torx different shape) socket set every socket goes up in .5's like 1,1.5,2,2.5 so on crazy to go to so much work that you have to make your own tools..
24. harry289 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 Lincolnshire Posts: 1633 Icelandic Grey Saxo VTR

    #24 15th January 2011, 19:54

    yeah they make their own tools. if one brakes they just get another one cut out by a computered machine. sorted.
    
    not too keen on their mini countryman as a rally car though...
25. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #25 16th January 2011, 12:43

    Basically the middle of the anti roll bar does nothing so theres no disadvantage to removing it.