downpipes snapped!

1. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

   #1 15th January 2011, 20:03

   my vtr is one of those horrible ones with the cat in the manifold. decided to make a run for it today and break right on the seam between the cat and the pipe.
   
   anyone know if it can be welded up short term until i get a replacement? i kinda need the car but dont have £70 to spend on a cat!
2. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

   #2 15th January 2011, 20:05

   Course is can be welded, it's metal... Lol.
3. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

   #3 15th January 2011, 20:06

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Bikekid450 Course is can be welded, it's metal... Lol.

   well yes, but will it be strong enough afterwards seeing as its already broken? no use trying to weld shit metal together and making a hash of it!
4. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #4 15th January 2011, 20:07

   Do you have pic of it?
   
   Steve.
5. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

   #5 15th January 2011, 20:08

   If you're welding it, so it's not costing you any money, then weld it.
   
   If you pay someone to weld it, if they're any good they'll know it's pointless and tell you...
   
   If it's not rust that made it snap, then it'll be weldable. If rust made it snap then you won't have much luck lol.
6. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

   #6 15th January 2011, 20:09

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by stevo67 Do you have pic of it? Steve.

   will try in a minute, its dark and wet outside and can't really get under the car lol
   
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Bikekid450 If you're welding it, so it's not costing you any money, then weld it. If you pay someone to weld it, if they're any good they'll know it's pointless and tell you... If it's not rust isn't why it snapped, then it'll be weldable. If rust made it snap then you won't have much luck lol.

   i'll find out in the morning. stepdads welding it, just need to get it off the car first lol
   
   as for if its rust, can't see any but it all depends on what i find in the morning :-/
7. CbVtR Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Hemel Hempstead Posts: 437 Saxo VTR / Saxo VTS turbo

   #7 15th January 2011, 20:10

   I would say that you have nothing to lose by welding it, it's already broken you can't break it anymore than what it already is!
   It should be fine short term, but as you are getting a new cat I would give it a try.
8. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

   #8 15th January 2011, 20:11

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by CbVtR I would say that you have nothing to lose by welding it, it's already broken you can't break it anymore than what it already is! It should be fine short term, but as you are getting a new cat I would give it a try.

   looks like i'll have to get a new cat as i can't risk it. bloody more money to spend
   
   although it does give me a good reason to stick a 421 on it haha
9. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

   #9 15th January 2011, 20:12

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by CbVtR I would say that you have nothing to lose by welding it, it's already broken you can't break it anymore than what it already is! It should be fine short term, but as you are getting a new cat I would give it a try.

   Indeed!
   
   I welded my 4-1 back together after I snapped it on a Level crossing... It's fine lol.
   
   As long as you can weld, and not blow holes in it.
10. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #10 15th January 2011, 20:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bikekid450 Indeed! I welded my 4-1 back together after I snapped it on a Level crossing... It's fine lol. As long as you can weld, and not blow holes in it.

    stepdads been welding for as long as i can remember, used to do it for a living. hasnt got cheap shit, has welded a sierra through 5 years of heavy driving and always passed an mot
    
    now to convince the missus to let me have a 4-1 on it
11. stevie_m Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Glasgow Posts: 4772 Mk2 VTR Two Tone, Mazda 3 Sport

    #11 15th January 2011, 20:20

    You will prob find that if your going to weld it yourself make sure you have CAST welding rods.
    
    I would advise you to get someone professional to weld it, you will prob find it will cost you about £20
12. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #12 15th January 2011, 20:32

    Ok, will clarify with the stepdad, although ive normally just left him to it lol
13. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #13 15th January 2011, 20:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevie_m CAST welding rods.

    I'd imagine he'd Mig it, Stick isn't really used on cars. Although I Sticked my car together haha. My Mig broke
14. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #14 15th January 2011, 20:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chinkostu stepdads been welding for as long as i can remember, used to do it for a living. hasnt got cheap shit, has welded a sierra through 5 years of heavy driving and always passed an mot now to convince the missus to let me have a 4-1 on it

    Tell her its a stainless steel manifold & will last for years and save money in the long run lol.
    
    
    Steve.
15. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #15 15th January 2011, 20:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevo67 Tell her its a stainless steel manifold & will last for years and save money in the long run lol. Steve.

    Hahahaha!
16. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

    #16 15th January 2011, 22:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevie_m You will prob find that if your going to weld it yourself make sure you have CAST welding rods. I would advise you to get someone professional to weld it, you will prob find it will cost you about £20

    the cats not cast though,only the manifold. Mig will be fine with standard wire.
17. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #17 16th January 2011, 06:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mandyslover70 the cats not cast though,only the manifold. Mig will be fine with standard wire.

    
    
    just woke up the street moving it onto the drive. good call