Engine swop - in an out

1. nickwillyhams Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 247 2000 16v

   #1 20th January 2011, 09:50

   Right guys gotta swop my engine over this weekend vts lump in and out an I'm after a bit of guidance, basically can anyone give me a rough guide ie undo throttle then remove clutch engine mount etc etc
   Thanks in advance
2. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

   #2 20th January 2011, 10:29

   Just a matter of removing everything that's connected really, i do it in this order:
   
   lights/slam panel/rad/rad pipes (drain first) i remove these for easy access to remove the engine once it's on the crane
   battery
   clutch cable
   throttle cable
   wiring (make sure every single wire is unplugged and out of the way)
   gear linkages
   drain gearbox oil
   remove driveshafts
   remove bolts for exhaust downpipe (remove downpipe)
   remove gearbox mount
   
   Have your engine crane(or what ever your using) to take the weight and make sure it's not going anywhere lol
   
   Remove engine mounts( i remove the mount that's connects to the gearbox as well, then once everythings free, slowly angle the engine and slowly remove it.
   
   Anyone please correct me if i've missed anything
3. jambo18 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 fife Posts: 429 gold mk2 vtr

   #3 20th January 2011, 18:56

   good guide mate
4. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #4 20th January 2011, 20:34

   Make sure you unbolt the earth strap on the gearbox too.
   
   Steve.
5. nickwillyhams Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 247 2000 16v

   #5 20th January 2011, 21:05

   Will do! There's a few other earth straps I need to remember to remove. Thanks guys
6. nickwillyhams Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 247 2000 16v

   #6 21st January 2011, 22:33

   How long then roughly? A day?
7. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

   #7 21st January 2011, 22:36

   Took me about hour and half roughly to take out my 1.4, Take your time and try not to break anything like sensors etc
8. Railroader Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Bolton Posts: 1068 Saxo 1.4i sx

   #8 21st January 2011, 23:17

   Ive never done this. When you remove the driveshafts can you leave them bolted to the stud carriers or do they have to come out completely? Also the gear linkages any tips on undiong them, Ive never done this either.
   
   Sorry to butt in
9. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

   #9 22nd January 2011, 09:44

   maybe a good idea to label all the sensors if this is your first time? Will make the job a bit more easy
10. nickwillyhams Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 247 2000 16v

    #10 22nd January 2011, 18:28

    How do you go about removing the water pipes from the rear of the engine? From underneath?
11. user_41431 Established Member Joined: Feb 2010 oswestry, shropshire and chester Posts: 1648 3 saxo's black GTI now a rebuilt cherry caged GT

    #11 22nd January 2011, 18:34

    there is a clip to the pipes just remove the clip and have a bucket ready to catch the water, they can be a pain to get off if they have never been off
12. nickwillyhams Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 247 2000 16v

    #12 22nd January 2011, 19:23

    Regarding engine that's goin in, as it's been stood a few month is it worth runnin a flush through before a put new oil/filter in there?
13. nickwillyhams Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 247 2000 16v

    #13 23rd January 2011, 18:39

    Do ph1 an ph2 engines have a different water pipe routing to the rear of the engine? Ie where bottom rad pipe joins an the heat exchanger!?
14. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #14 23rd January 2011, 18:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nickwillyhams Regarding engine that's goin in, as it's been stood a few month is it worth runnin a flush through before a put new oil/filter in there?

    Yes thats what I did when changed over an engine(not saxo)I added the oil flush ran the engine then drained the oil out.
    
    
    Steve
15. nickwillyhams Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 247 2000 16v

    #15 28th January 2011, 18:17

    Am I best removing the engine an box together or just the engine alone? Doin it tomorrow so could do with bit of advice
16. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

    #16 28th January 2011, 18:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nickwillyhams Am I best removing the engine an box together or just the engine alone? Doin it tomorrow so could do with bit of advice

    What are you using to remove the engine? if an engine crane, i'd keep it as one, i have one person operating the crane and one person keeping it from it swaying, then once all mounts are off, position the engine so the gearbox is to the right and other side left then slowly jack the crane up freeing the engine.
17. nickwillyhams Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 247 2000 16v

    #17 28th January 2011, 18:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iSlayeR What are you using to remove the engine? if an engine crane, i'd keep it as one, i have one person operating the crane and one person keeping it from it swaying, then once all mounts are off, position the engine so the gearbox is to the right and other side left then slowly jack the crane up freeing the engine.

    Yeah engine crane it's all striped down now, just gotta get it on some stands, downpipe off driveshafts out an it's ready. So engine an gearbox together then yeah?
18. nickwillyhams Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 247 2000 16v

    #18 30th January 2011, 16:01

    All done now but car won't start immob light is flashing on dash!!!?? Can't hear fuel pump prime either but if I turn the key I get a click from starter? Help me please
19. user_38811 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Sawtry Posts: 3456 Saxo VTS Saxo VTR

    #19 30th January 2011, 16:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nickwillyhams All done now but car won't start immob light is flashing on dash!!!?? Can't hear fuel pump prime either but if I turn the key I get a click from starter? Help me please

    Did you change the ECU mate?
20. nickwillyhams Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 247 2000 16v

    #20 30th January 2011, 16:23

    No it's the same single plug that was in the car, could it have locked?
21. user_38811 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2009 Sawtry Posts: 3456 Saxo VTS Saxo VTR

    #21 31st January 2011, 05:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nickwillyhams No it's the same single plug that was in the car, could it have locked?

    Sounds like Immobilliser is kicking in, preventing you from starting the car