FAO cammed VTR owners

1. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

   #1 20th January 2011, 10:25

   what cam are you running and what sort of power is it putting out?
2. vtr_chris90 Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 nuneaton Posts: 1796 LY R26

   #2 20th January 2011, 11:39

   I ran a ph2 cam and it was 119bhp without a remap
   Also that was using s1 rallye inlet and head
   
   What year is your car? Tbh no matter what cam you use you will gain about the same, ph3 is the cheaper of the cams iirc so may aswell just go for that tbh it's all down to how well it's mapped, and how well timed up it is.
   
   I'd say anywhere in-between 120 and 130bhp with a decent map but that's only a rough guestimate
3. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

   #3 20th January 2011, 16:08

   its a 1999. whats the difference between ph2 &ph3? i was thinking maybe a cam, a remap and a vts gearbox? just need a cam which will be as close as possible to vts speed but still ok as a daily road car as my car will probably never see a track
4. jambo18 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 fife Posts: 429 gold mk2 vtr

   #4 20th January 2011, 18:50

   you would be as well gettin a s lump slammed in then 1 day you could maybe cam and remap that
5. Jase125 Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Wiltshire Posts: 1381 Pug 106, Saxo vtr

   #5 20th January 2011, 19:02

   Im doing this to my vtr aswell mate going to get a ph3 newman cam in bit of head work then after a bit get it mapped should see good power gains if you got good breathing mods/exhaust etc...
6. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

   #6 20th January 2011, 19:03

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jambo18 you would be as well gettin a s lump slammed in then 1 day you could maybe cam and remap that

   cant afford the insurance on an s conversion but can with a modified vtr
7. vtr_chris90 Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 nuneaton Posts: 1796 LY R26

   #7 20th January 2011, 22:47

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by LSOfreak its a 1999. whats the difference between ph2 &ph3? i was thinking maybe a cam, a remap and a vts gearbox? just need a cam which will be as close as possible to vts speed but still ok as a daily road car as my car will probably never see a track

   Well for any one with a silvertop the ph2 is wilder than the ph3, but the ph2 is the same as a ph3 for the blacktop
   The ph2 will only fit the big bearing heads so rallye and xsi, it was an alternative to the ph3 but for these heads that's all
   
   The ph3 is as wild as you can get tbh with out forgies anyway. So stick with that, as for gearbox, I feel the s2 rallye/1.6 xsi box is the better one to get if you can find one if not just go for a 16v box that should be fine.

   1 user thanked this post: LSOfreak
8. user_35090 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty

   #8 20th January 2011, 23:43

   my vtr is cammed with ph3's, 4-2-1 manifold, decat, supersprint race centre section with a raceland induction kit hasnt been mapped yet as its payday on the 28th so will soon have a figure. but from driving it from standard to now, defo an increase in power alot more lively well worth it sounds mint to.
   
   actually any1 put a bhp figure on it as a guess? 98 blacktop vtr
9. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

   #9 21st January 2011, 13:37

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by vtr_chris90 Well for any one with a silvertop the ph2 is wilder than the ph3, but the ph2 is the same as a ph3 for the blacktop The ph2 will only fit the big bearing heads so rallye and xsi, it was an alternative to the ph3 but for these heads that's all The ph3 is as wild as you can get tbh with out forgies anyway. So stick with that, as for gearbox, I feel the s2 rallye/1.6 xsi box is the better one to get if you can find one if not just go for a 16v box that should be fine.

   ive got the later silvertop mk1 engine, so i would still be better of with a ph3?
10. vtr_chris90 Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 nuneaton Posts: 1796 LY R26

    #10 21st January 2011, 13:52

    Yer ph3, I only used the ph2 as I got a good deal on a complete s1 rallye top end inc the inlet.
    Unless you want to fit a blacktop vtr head and ph3 for that. But it's just hassle tbh
    Stick with a ph3 or the catcam equivalent if your willing to pay the extra
11. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #11 21st January 2011, 14:00

    k cheers mate, ill stick to the ph3 newman then and possibly a vts gearbox. ive already got a green cotton filter and decat so hopefully with a remap i might see an alright gain in power
12. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

    #12 21st January 2011, 16:11

    not woth fitting cams to silver tp engine without changing valve springs as well -they are weaker than black top engines ,so valve float can be a problem -
    also do not expect to get a REAL 20bhp increase with just a cam on an 8v
    thats 20%increase on std --not going to happen -10bhp tops,change springs at same time and get rev limter lifted to 7k for best results
    you want to know for sure dyno it first +then take it back to same dyno and recheck
13. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #13 21st January 2011, 17:06

    cheers, any idea what valve springs to get?