no luck at all with this vtr

1. 2tyte2paye Newbie Joined: Jan 2011 castleford Posts: 19 silver p reg saxo vts yellow w reg saxo vtr

   #1 21st January 2011, 01:19

   im on my second week of owning it,ive just been to fill it up and pulling out of the garage it started running like crap revs up and down all over the place,loss of power then it would return but strangest of all it tried like fighting me to cut out so id blip the throttle it kept running,sort of but sounded like it was pushing air through the air filter any one please have any ideas,advise it hasnt done it once untill tonight.a few mornings its started but then run on 3 cylinders and engine light would come on id turn it off turn it on again and then it would be fine.
2. tarzan Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Lurgan Posts: 767 2001 black saxo furio 2001 black saxo vts

   #2 21st January 2011, 02:27

   ignition problems possibly??? might be bad fuel check the fuel filter
3. Byard Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Chesterfield Posts: 263 BMW 330d, Arctic Steel Silver TU5JP4, 1.8 Focus

   #3 21st January 2011, 11:06

   Idle Control Valve?
4. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

   #4 21st January 2011, 11:46

   ICV, Coil Pack try them both

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5. 2tyte2paye Newbie Joined: Jan 2011 castleford Posts: 19 silver p reg saxo vts yellow w reg saxo vtr

   #5 21st January 2011, 12:55

   when you say try them both is there any way to test them or is it just a case of relace them?
6. rey Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Kent Posts: 8205 :(s)rac

   #6 21st January 2011, 12:57

   Yeah, get a diagnostic test done.
7. 2tyte2paye Newbie Joined: Jan 2011 castleford Posts: 19 silver p reg saxo vts yellow w reg saxo vtr

   #7 21st January 2011, 13:00

   it seems a bit better today its just juddering a lot below 2000 rpm above that it seems ok it just doesnt like going along slowly say 20/30mph it feels like its constantly running out of petrol, above that as i say it seems fine.but blip the throttle at a stand still it boggs down and then idles all over the place.
8. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

   #8 21st January 2011, 13:03

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by 2tyte2paye when you say try them both is there any way to test them or is it just a case of relace them?

   Yeh as said do a Diagnostics test.
   
   Or if you have a friend with the same car, ask to try theirs and see if it's any better
   
   
   Also, change the fuel filter, it's cheap and worth changing anyway...
9. rkid147 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Stirling Posts: 358 Mk2 Wicked Red VTS!

   #9 22nd January 2011, 12:39

   Lambda sensors??
   
   
   Chewy
10. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

    #10 22nd January 2011, 15:49

    just filled up with fuel and all problems start??? dodgy fuel or maybe even put diesel in there which has mixed with any remaining petrol??? before you get all technical it may be worth checking,it happens a lot

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11. 2tyte2paye Newbie Joined: Jan 2011 castleford Posts: 19 silver p reg saxo vts yellow w reg saxo vtr

    #11 27th January 2011, 18:46

    thanks for the post i went back and checked the pump was petrol seems to be getting better as days go by re fueled a few times but problem still persists.im starting to think along the lines of blocked injector/s ar sensor problem
12. scooty Newbie Joined: Jan 2011 Polmont,Falkirk Posts: 1 Citroen Saxo 1.6 VTR (02 Plate)

    #12 27th January 2011, 19:38

    i would say idle control valve like had this problem when i had my 106
13. jambo18 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 fife Posts: 429 gold mk2 vtr

    #13 27th January 2011, 21:47

    crank sensor ?
14. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #14 28th January 2011, 00:04

    ICV/Coilpack/Lambda/sparkplugs
    
    or just damp
    
    had similar problems which was down to knackered plugs and a buggered coil pack. runs like a dream now
15. Westgarth Established Member Joined: Jan 2011 Scarborough Posts: 1420 Vauxhall Corsa SXI+ Saxo Furio 1.4

    #15 28th January 2011, 13:40

    might be just the fuel you put in my boyfriends old 106 didnt like shell fuel, as it ran shit on it always juddering and not getting power like you said. put some redx fuel am sure it will sort its self out as that what 106 did.
16. clubbz Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Shropshire Posts: 454 Black Saxo VTR

    #16 28th January 2011, 18:43

    mine used to randomnly run onto 3 cylinders or start on 3 cylinders but then you turn it off and back on and it would run fine i think i had a faulty injector so could be that?
17. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

    #17 28th January 2011, 19:04

    Clean the throttle cable, and the place it sits,
18. GAZ19 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 Ascot Posts: 137 Silver Saxo VTR

    #18 28th January 2011, 19:06

    could just be a coilpack mate, if the engine management light cam on and its bouncing the revs up and down then its probs running on 3 cylinders tbh. like peeps have already said get a diagnostics check. i would still say it was a coilpack though mate
19. LEWIS1234 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 guisborough Posts: 120 saxo vtr mk2 black

    #19 29th January 2011, 10:35

    mine use to rev up and down n try and cut out i disconect the battery left it overnight then linked it back up and it was fine
20. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #20 30th January 2011, 07:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by clubbz mine used to randomnly run onto 3 cylinders or start on 3 cylinders but then you turn it off and back on and it would run fine i think i had a faulty injector so could be that?

    i had that once. turned it on and it was on 3. woke every fucker up
21. JoeExpose Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Wirral Posts: 383 Saxo 2001 VTR 98 bhp

    #21 30th January 2011, 10:14

    fuel injector??
22. electric_red Newbie Joined: Jan 2011 Great Dunmow, Essex Posts: 27 mk2 saxo 1.1 desire soon to be 1.6 :P

    #22 30th January 2011, 10:36

    if you know someone who has an eobd fault code reader plug that into your car, or alternatively take it to a garage to get a diagnostic test done on it, if the engine management light came on then there will definately be a fault code in the system which will tell you whats wrong. its cheaper than trying to guess whats up and replacing loads of parts unnecessarily. if it was after you filled up maybe you filled up with dodgy fuel and that blocked an injector, fuel line, or fuel filter
23. user_49499 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2011 bedford Posts: 104 diablo red 106 gti, focus st2 (330 club) :-)

    #23 30th January 2011, 11:09

    got mac tools hand held code reader in my glove box, (a must for alfa owners)
    but i'm a bit far away from you i think,
    when it's running rough, carefully remove each ht lead one at a time at the coil pack end and see there is any noticable difference,
    you should see a spark between the lead and the coil pack contact (if you hold it close), just be sure not to touch the end of the lead your hand/body with the engine running or you'll get a nasty belt.....