Video - Over 70MPH in 2nd gear?

1. Byard Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Chesterfield Posts: 263 BMW 330d, Arctic Steel Silver TU5JP4, 1.8 Focus

   #1 21st January 2011, 11:21

   Heres a vid of my VTS ... are the dials majorly out or does have a different gearbox on it? It doesn't look like the limiter has been raised.
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8yKVlg6TQA
2. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #2 21st January 2011, 11:30

   not looked, clocks are all out, some v bad
3. Alvinums L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 Redditch Posts: 68 Saxo VTR Yellow

   #3 21st January 2011, 11:34

   probably wrong gearbox
4. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

   #4 21st January 2011, 11:41

   Hmm, I had saw a thread about this a while ago, I said my 1.1 can do 100 in 3rd and I just got laughed at... I'll have to make a Video. And my VTR can do 65 in 2nd... I'm not sure about yours but isn't that a good thing? I personally don't care about speed, I'm more of a low end power freak but if you want speed, surely your car is what you want lol.
5. maddison_vts Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Torbay Posts: 1565 2000 phase 2 Saxo VTS Turbo 2000 Nissan 200sx S14a

   #5 21st January 2011, 11:49

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Bikekid450 Hmm, I had saw a thread about this a while ago, I said my 1.1 can do 100 in 3rd and I just got laughed at... I'll have to make a Video. And my VTR can do 65 in 2nd... I'm not sure about yours but isn't that a good thing? I personally don't care about speed, I'm more of a low end power freak but if you want speed, surely your car is what you want lol.

   F*cking lol at that.
   
   I often use my girlfriend's 106 1.1 and there is no way on earth it would ever do 100mph in 3rd or even 4th. 100mph is basically the max of the car as it is.
6. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

   #6 21st January 2011, 11:51

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by maddison_vts F*cking lol at that. I often use my girlfriend's 106 1.1 and there is no way on earth it would ever do 100mph in 3rd or even 4th. 100mph is basically the max of the car as it is.

   I know, that's what I mean... My 1.1 always seemed faster than other 1.1's but no body listened when I told them lol.
   
   
   I'll get it back on the road some time this year and make a video
7. Byard Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Chesterfield Posts: 263 BMW 330d, Arctic Steel Silver TU5JP4, 1.8 Focus

   #7 21st January 2011, 11:59

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Alvinums probably wrong gearbox

   Not really 'wrong' lol. But still the car is on a 52 plate with 50k miles, wouldn't have thought it would have had a gearbox changed.
8. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

   #8 21st January 2011, 12:00

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Byard Not really 'wrong' lol. But still the car is on a 52 plate with 50k miles, wouldn't have thought it would have had a gearbox changed.

   Could have been treated badly and had a broken gearbox, and had that replaced at some point... Unless you know the car from the start you never know how it's been treated...
9. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

   #9 21st January 2011, 12:03

   thats one long arse box then. mine does 80 (just) in 3rd!
10. rey Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Kent Posts: 8205 :(s)rac

    #10 21st January 2011, 12:05

    Probably a vtr box tbh, now way that's a standard s box
11. wolf_gsxr Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 wigan Posts: 778

    #11 21st January 2011, 12:07

    what wheels on it? sometimes that makes a slight diffrence. probs a bigger box tho..
12. Byard Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Chesterfield Posts: 263 BMW 330d, Arctic Steel Silver TU5JP4, 1.8 Focus

    #12 21st January 2011, 12:12

    Didn't think there was a box that would do that speed in 2nd anyway.
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wolf_gsxr what wheels on it? sometimes that makes a slight diffrence. probs a bigger box tho..

    Was 15" Halfrauds chavtastic alloys on it when the video was made.
13. rey Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Kent Posts: 8205 :(s)rac

    #13 21st January 2011, 12:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Byard Didn't think there was a box that would do that speed in 2nd anyway.

    Link
    
    Dude, click that, go to the third one down, look at the vtr box.
    
    With a VTS limiter and a VTR box, top of 2nd is 69, which is more likely than your clocks being out by 17%
14. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #14 21st January 2011, 12:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rey Link Dude, click that, go to the third one down, look at the vtr box. With a VTS limiter and a VTR box, top of 2nd is 69, which is more likely than your clocks being out by 17%

    good job batman
15. user_48250 Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 Ealing Posts: 1078 vts, celica, mr2 tubby, vtr

    #15 21st January 2011, 13:12

    any easy way to get clocks to be bang on?
16. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #16 21st January 2011, 13:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by _-john-_ any easy way to get clocks to be bang on?

    everything standard? they're always going to be slightly out.
    
    aftermarket speedo of some sorts maybe? didn't they used to do laser speedos or something?
17. Byard Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Chesterfield Posts: 263 BMW 330d, Arctic Steel Silver TU5JP4, 1.8 Focus

    #17 21st January 2011, 13:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by _-john-_ any easy way to get clocks to be bang on?

    Think i'm going to go through one of those speed cameras (not the ticket giving ones) that tell you your speed and adjust it accordingly.
18. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #18 21st January 2011, 13:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Byard Think i'm going to go through one of those speed cameras (not the ticket giving ones) that tell you your speed and adjust it accordingly.

    Hahaha that's not a bad idea, unless it's broken like the ones around here are...
    
    My mate found out if you go past one really fast they stay on and kinda freeze lol.
19. ric_b3 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 essex Posts: 1041 Saxo 1.1 animal

    #19 21st January 2011, 14:44

    100 in 3rd thats just mad mine done 74 in 3rd we will have to compare
20. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

    #20 21st January 2011, 16:05

    presuming speedo is correct + you can check that easy with another car + both do 50 in top for instance.
    most likely is its a vtr g/box and as you vts revs another 1000rpm before limter that would be about correct
21. Byard Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Chesterfield Posts: 263 BMW 330d, Arctic Steel Silver TU5JP4, 1.8 Focus

    #21 21st January 2011, 16:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by axsaxoman presuming speedo is correct + you can check that easy with another car + both do 50 in top for instance. most likely is its a vtr g/box and as you vts revs another 1000rpm before limter that would be about correct

    VTR gearbox on a VTS will mean slower ingear acceleration due to longer ratios?
22. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

    #22 21st January 2011, 16:20

    yes but not by much and maybe it can save a gear change on a drag strip,all depends on the bhp you have.
    there was a famous vid on ssc years ago of a vts +s/c doing 170 on the A9--used a vtr g/box
23. jambo18 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 fife Posts: 429 gold mk2 vtr

    #23 21st January 2011, 16:22

    100 in 3rd in a 1.1 :L cant wait to see a video
24. user_9396 Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 torquay (England) Posts: 1993 supercharged vts. 1.1 saxo. accord type r

    #24 21st January 2011, 16:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by axsaxoman yes but not by much and maybe it can save a gear change on a drag strip,all depends on the bhp you have. there was a famous vid on ssc years ago of a vts +s/c doing 170 on the A9--used a vtr g/box

    thats crazy in a saxo lol, must have been mental (BIG BRASS BALLS)
25. Byard Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Chesterfield Posts: 263 BMW 330d, Arctic Steel Silver TU5JP4, 1.8 Focus

    #25 21st January 2011, 16:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by axsaxoman yes but not by much and maybe it can save a gear change on a drag strip,all depends on the bhp you have. there was a famous vid on ssc years ago of a vts +s/c doing 170 on the A9--used a vtr g/box

    Thanks, not that bothered about top end, would rather have the acceleration, gutted
26. Byard Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Chesterfield Posts: 263 BMW 330d, Arctic Steel Silver TU5JP4, 1.8 Focus

    #26 21st January 2011, 16:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jambo18 100 in 3rd in a 1.1 :L cant wait to see a video

    Just noticed I reach 100 in 3rd so I doubt a 1.1 can do it.
27. tay56 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Warrington Posts: 755 Saxo VTR

    #27 21st January 2011, 16:32

    Possibly on a VTR box, when I ran my VTS engine on a VTR box it would touch 65mph in 2nd.
28. tajktm L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 Edinburgh Posts: 69 1998 Open (now closed) Scandal 1.0

    #28 21st January 2011, 17:25

    I had just over 55 in my 1.0 in 3rd the other day before i got scared didnt sound nice think i could squeeze 60 if i had the balls. It is stripped out at the moment though on a leak hunt.
29. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

    #29 22nd January 2011, 11:24

    Wow this is a beyond cool conversation......
    
    Who gives a fuck?
    Ragging the fuck out of the gears is likely going to cause the box and clutch to fail more often which means more expense......genius
    
    Just because your 1.1 does mach 3 in 1st gear doesn't make you any cooler, in fact it's likely compensating for a lack of something else...
30. jambo18 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 fife Posts: 429 gold mk2 vtr

    #30 22nd January 2011, 11:32

    Think we all need proof of this tbh
31. DannyVTS Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 Pontefract Posts: 2177

    #31 22nd January 2011, 15:04

    Most probably an 8v box from a Furio or a VTR. Mine does the same
32. user_42401 Established Member Joined: Mar 2010 Cupar Fife Posts: 1712 1600 16v VTS 1600 8v VTR 1400 16v Clio Sport

    #32 22nd January 2011, 21:47

    GPS will give u a good Mph reading, far more acurate than the clocks, once the clocks get over 100mph there are usualy a long way out
33. marc24 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 sunderland Posts: 161 Citoren Saxo 1.4 Furio Chipped

    #33 22nd January 2011, 22:02

    My furio does that in 2nd too i should make vid as like you all say get laughed at. I was told saxo furio rev limter was at 65000 revs well on mine the limiter kicks in at just over 7500
    
    Ill make vid when got the time to go on a quiet road.
    I know my meant to have limiter to 70000 revs with chip but it at 75000 is this sign poor chip ??
34. marc24 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 sunderland Posts: 161 Citoren Saxo 1.4 Furio Chipped

    #34 22nd January 2011, 22:07

    Ok ill do a trial of using gps and compare to clocks see how far it actually out. Should be good experiment as the car is still on steelies like it came out of factory. So clocks really sgould be correct.
35. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #35 23rd January 2011, 00:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adzvtr thats crazy in a saxo lol, must have been mental (BIG BRASS BALLS)

    most definatley, must say its not the speed rather the car id be scared of
    ......if not both
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by devilsadvocate Wow this is a beyond cool conversation...... Who gives a fuck? Ragging the fuck out of the gears is likely going to cause the box and clutch to fail more often which means more expense......genius Just because your 1.1 does mach 3 in 1st gear doesn't make you any cooler, in fact it's likely compensating for a lack of something else...

    read the whole thread without flicking an eyelid.... and thought COCK when i read your post
    
    
    just for referance though, saxo clocks are piss poor and you can never guarantee the box unless you check the code, need to check my gearbox code tbh as my 98bhp is quicker standard then my ph3'd 90bhp with breathing mods, by a long mile infact-, but my old vtr read true near enough on the sat nav, this one reads 80mph when infact im doing 72mph on the twat nav- and this contests the accleration tbh
36. Pearson Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 Doncaster. Posts: 2115 Y' Reg MK2 1.6i VTR

    #36 23rd January 2011, 10:27

    Maybe true this, i was experimenting with mine yesterday, i know i can get 60mph in second out of mine just touching 6k revs before i ease off.
37. danny-boi Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2010 worcester Posts: 471 saxo furio

    #37 23rd January 2011, 13:38

    that was in 3rd gear mate
38. benwh555 Established Member Joined: Jun 2007 Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 2137 Saxo VTS black 2003

    #38 23rd January 2011, 13:56

    Will be a VTR box mate, I know the clocks aren't the best in saxo's but check the code on the box, i would be surprised if it wasn't a VTR box.
39. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

    #39 23rd January 2011, 14:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 read the whole thread without flicking an eyelid.... and thought COCK when i read your post

    Because?
    
    .....I am adult and don't rag the fuck out of my gearbox
    
    Makes me laugh when people complain about how shit saxos are and how often they go wrong yet half the boy racer owners redline every gear change and wonder why thier cars are falling apart
    
    There is so many complain threads on here.....'my insurance has gone up'.....'my gearbox has failed again'......'I get shit mpg'
    Maybe if stupid little boy racers didnt attempt 100mph in 3rd gear then maybe thier cars would last a little longer and insurance prices would be cheaper because they didn't crash after driving like a bellend
40. Byard Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Chesterfield Posts: 263 BMW 330d, Arctic Steel Silver TU5JP4, 1.8 Focus

    #40 23rd January 2011, 16:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by devilsadvocate Maybe if stupid little boy racers didnt attempt 100mph in 3rd gear then maybe thier cars would last a little longer and insurance prices would be cheaper because they didn't crash after driving like a bellend

    Who is that aimed at?
41. devilsadvocate Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI

    #41 23rd January 2011, 17:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Byard Who is that aimed at?

    Anyone who falls under that category obviously
42. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #42 23rd January 2011, 21:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by devilsadvocate Because? .....I am adult and don't rag the fuck out of my gearbox Makes me laugh when people complain about how shit saxos are and how often they go wrong yet half the boy racer owners redline every gear change and wonder why thier cars are falling apart There is so many complain threads on here.....'my insurance has gone up'.....'my gearbox has failed again'......'I get shit mpg' Maybe if stupid little boy racers didnt attempt 100mph in 3rd gear then maybe thier cars would last a little longer and insurance prices would be cheaper because they didn't crash after driving like a bellend

    because it made you look/sound like a cock, you take things far too serioulsey mate, yes alot of what youve posted is "right", and yes it is a pretty daft topic, but in all fairness an issue was raised and promoted some serious answers.... answers which have proven to give quite a few ppl who've posted and probabably many more who havent, an insight into why their clocks could be reading wrong, admittedly alot of them will probably young drivers....who are trying out their car to see what it does... but none the less it was pretty much kept on topic for a change untill you posted what you did

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