Car wont start

1. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

   #1 22nd January 2011, 22:01

   I had a vts conversion about 3 months ago maybe nothing to do with this but i though i best mention it though,
   
   basically the car was fine for about 2 months when you turn it over it was fine but when you rev it the revs just stick then you drop the clutch and the revs come down too much and it trys to stall so you hit the accelerator and it will be fine then its just been getting worse and worse to a point where i drove home and it was just revving and trying to cut out when i dropped the clutch,I then went to start it in the morning and it would not fire up, its trys to start but does not fire up but there is no spark off the spark plugs - also i was like the temp sensor was broke as i don't think it revved over 2000 but this is not the problem as the car will not start ?
   
   So far then i have done -
   new coil pack - need to check all wires but have not had day off yet
   Fuel priming - and pulled fuel pipe off at throttle and turned key and it comes out
   cleaned crack sensor, cleaned idle sensor and had gas flowed throttle put on
   earthed the gearbox
   bashed the start motor
   brand new batter and fully charged
   Jumped off my dads freelander
   fuel cut off is pushed down
   spark plugs (under bonnet) checked
   
   Any other things i have missed, i will try looking over all of the wires when i get the day off on Wednesday but its too dark at the moment any specific wires to double check though ? coil pack ones
   
   I have used the search but could not find any think specific like this sorry, any help would be great thanks a lot
2. LEE_VTR1 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 6476 RB RS 200

   #2 23rd January 2011, 00:06

   Fuel Pump relay as mines being doing a similar thing.
3. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

   #3 23rd January 2011, 08:12

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by LEE_VTR1 Fuel Pump relay as mines being doing a similar thing.

   Okay is this the block thats under the ecu ? The brown one i think? If so can i get it off any other saxo like vtr ect ?
4. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

   #4 23rd January 2011, 16:39

   i have found the block its a black block right un plugged a few times still no spark so next thing is to try and get one right ? off any saxo ???
5. jambo18 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 fife Posts: 429 gold mk2 vtr

   #5 23rd January 2011, 16:47

   Yeah the fuel pump relay is under the ecu. Just get 1 off any vtr buddy.

   1 user thanked this post: rozaladdd
6. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

   #6 23rd January 2011, 17:03

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jambo18 Yeah the fuel pump relay is under the ecu. Just get 1 off any vtr buddy.

   Okay nice one mate there is a vtr at my local scrap thats why so i can fly down there tomorrow and grab it and finally see if the things sparks !!
7. user_38615 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 Birmingham Posts: 2073 Current - 56 1.9 astra Sri Owned - 54 C2 GT. Ow

   #7 23rd January 2011, 17:09

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by rozaladdd Okay nice one mate there is a vtr at my local scrap thats why so i can fly down there tomorrow and grab it and finally see if the things sparks !!

   still having problems are ya
   i got a relay aint sure what saxo its off though
8. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

   #8 23rd January 2011, 17:37

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Gazer still having problems are ya i got a relay aint sure what saxo its off though

   damn i think they might all be the same right ? some are brown mines black though ?
   
   ye car is being a bitch lately 1
9. user_38615 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 Birmingham Posts: 2073 Current - 56 1.9 astra Sri Owned - 54 C2 GT. Ow

   #9 23rd January 2011, 17:49

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by rozaladdd damn i think they might all be the same right ? some are brown mines black though ? ye car is being a bitch lately 1

   lol i aint a clue bud, i got one for mine as thought it was that turned out was the ignition switch on mine long story... maybe tell that one at a meet lool
   
   i got a black one and a brown one
10. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

    #10 23rd January 2011, 17:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gazer lol i aint a clue bud, i got one for mine as thought it was that turned out was the ignition switch on mine long story... maybe tell that one at a meet lool i got a black one and a brown one

    where do you live then ?
11. user_38615 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 Birmingham Posts: 2073 Current - 56 1.9 astra Sri Owned - 54 C2 GT. Ow

    #11 23rd January 2011, 17:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rozaladdd where do you live then ?

    you got short term memory lose sure i told ya other day
    nana by the yew tree
12. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

    #12 23rd January 2011, 18:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gazer you got short term memory lose sure i told ya other day nana by the yew tree

    yup that's what i though you want to sell me one and how much also could you meet me some where in ag or some where ? i would say ill drive to yours but hmmm ......
13. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

    #13 23rd January 2011, 20:04

    just tried a new fuel relay and still i have no luck with even getting a spark ? maybe i could need some new plugs but i keep spending money on parts that are not working
14. VTSDanny Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2011 Nottingham Posts: 175 Saxo VTS

    #14 23rd January 2011, 22:25

    personally i would of got new plugs and if still no joy look further into it... Hope it all works out for ya buddy!
15. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

    #15 24th January 2011, 16:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VTSDanny personally i would of got new plugs and if still no joy look further into it... Hope it all works out for ya buddy!

    plugs are ngk's and i have only done about 4000 miles in them
16. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

    #16 24th January 2011, 21:38

    tried my mates crank sensor and that still didnt give me a spark so it can only be an earth right ? i have a miltimeter what and how do i check ?
17. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

    #17 27th January 2011, 18:28

    okay then so to all that tryed to help many thanks learned a lot more now
    
    i tow'ed it down to my mates garage where i have all the work done, to do with the wires some where a long the line but i asked the bloke and he got a lectrician out so i only just flew down and picked it up so when i know the actual cause i will put that up he just said a wire was wired wrong and fuses were blown ?
    
    thanks all though
18. jambo18 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 fife Posts: 429 gold mk2 vtr

    #18 27th January 2011, 18:35

    let me no what it was buddy. am having the same problem with my car. it starts but cuts out, checked everything but its left me puzzled
19. rozaladdd Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Solihull Posts: 1487 Black/Orange Vtr

    #19 27th January 2011, 18:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jambo18 let me no what it was buddy. am having the same problem with my car. it starts but cuts out, checked everything but its left me puzzled

    yup i will do have you read all though mine ? and check all of the things maybe i could help you the bloke at the garage said it may have been to do with the supresor on the radio and a wire broke ect you have not messed about with anything ?