Tightening of head bolts?

  1. Newbie Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 15
    #1
    On what torque i must tight bolts of cilinder head on saxo 1.4i 1996y?
  2. Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 ★ West / North Yorkshire ★ Posts: 1653
    #2
    Stage 1: 20Nm (15 lbf/ft)
    Stage 2: Angle-Tighten 240°

    Providing its aluminium block which im pretty sure it is
  3. Newbie Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 15
    #3
    thnks
  4. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2004 Denny United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 666 Ford focus 2.0 Saxo VTS
    #4
    arent the ancient 1.4l iron blocks
  5. Newbie Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 15
    #5
    correct
    1.4 have iron block
  6. Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Redcar Posts: 1971 2000 Posi Blue vtr
    #6
    1.4 are alloy block engines with wet liners (found in citroen AXGT, Peugeot 106, 206 and of course the Saxo).
    The 16l engines are cast iron block. To be fair with the head off it will be immediately noticable. Remember not to turn the motor over with head off incas e you dislodge the liners.
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  7. Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Bolton Posts: 1068 Saxo 1.4i sx
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Stevo123 View Post
    1.4 are alloy block engines with wet liners (found in citroen AXGT, Peugeot 106, 206 and of course the Saxo).
    The 16l engines are cast iron block. To be fair with the head off it will be immediately noticable. Remember not to turn the motor over with head off incas e you dislodge the liners.
    Mine is a 1996 1.4i and its definately got a cast iron block with wet liners. The torque sequence for cast block engines is two stages of 120 degrees instead of one stage of 240degress
  8. Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328
    #8
    And the correct sequance!
  9. Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Redcar Posts: 1971 2000 Posi Blue vtr
    #9
    Liners are only needed for alloy block because alloy is not a well matched material for the job of a cylinder.
    Sounds quite odd, sorry I am going on about it mate. I don't want you using the wrong torque settings.
    Is there an engine code or something you could post up perhaps?

    edit. After a bit of google action the peugeot 1.4 xsi had a 1.4 cast block aparantly. (Wet liners not used of course)
  10. Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 ★ West / North Yorkshire ★ Posts: 1653
    #10
    Cast-iron block tightening torques:

    Stage 1: 20Nm (15 lbf/ft)
    Stage 2: Angle-Tighten 120°
    Stage 3: Angle-Tighten 120°

    Obviously in the correct sequence:

    °8-----°4-----°1-----°5-----°9

    °7-----°3-----°2-----°6-----°10

    You will know if it's alloy or cast-iron when you take the cylinder head off
  11. Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Bolton Posts: 1068 Saxo 1.4i sx
    #11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Stevo123 View Post
    Liners are only needed for alloy block because alloy is not a well matched material for the job of a cylinder.
    Sounds quite odd, sorry I am going on about it mate. I don't want you using the wrong torque settings.
    Is there an engine code or something you could post up perhaps?

    edit. After a bit of google action the peugeot 1.4 xsi had a 1.4 cast block aparantly. (Wet liners not used of course)
    Well mine is a cast iron block so it must not have wet liners. I have turned the engine over without the head on and nothing untoward happened. The early ones were iron and it changed in 1997 to alloy
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  12. Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Bolton Posts: 1068 Saxo 1.4i sx
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by swampy View Post
    And the correct sequance!
    Outrage has given all the torqueing info. But I am curious did you mean a statement or a question?

    and if it is a question did you mean the sequence on each bolt or the sequence between all 8 bolts?? Im funny like that