cams and turbos question

1. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

   #1 28th January 2011, 21:50

   is it worth geting cams for a turbo enigne
   or is there other ways of gaining more power .
2. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #2 28th January 2011, 21:52

   Dp inlet manifold
3. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

   #3 28th January 2011, 21:56

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by raunchz Dp inlet manifold

   so its more of getting a good flow in then , bet they cost a bomb
   thanks for the info thow , will look see how much they are
4. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

   #4 28th January 2011, 21:57

   efficient intercooler (ducting etc), proper inlet as ross said, nice manifold will all make a nice effect on turbo motors.
   
   the run of the mill uprated cams arent really great with boosted setups due to their long duration.
   saying that i will be using my ph3 inlet cam and standard exhaust cam on my turbo setup
5. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

   #5 28th January 2011, 22:01

   all depends on power level +boost you want+ -decide that then ,thats a question that can be answered
6. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

   #6 28th January 2011, 22:03

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by raunchz Dp inlet manifold

   not a choice I would suggest without knowing power required+ turbo +boost level and main use of car
7. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

   #7 28th January 2011, 22:09

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by axsaxoman not a choice I would suggest without knowing power required+ turbo +boost level and main use of car

   pec forged rods
   gmc big end barrings
   wossner low comp pistons
   peco 480 injectors
   1.7 head gasket
   2.5 turbo piping
   gt25 turbo ar 48
   4 paddle clutch
   vtr box
   intercooler
   oilcooler 13 row
8. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

   #8 28th January 2011, 22:13

   you haven,t said what power you are wanting,or boost level
9. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

   #9 28th January 2011, 22:19

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by axsaxoman you haven,t said what power you are wanting,or boost level

   thats the thing i dont know, i dont want to say max as i just dont no , i like what eva i can get but i still want to drive it with out snapping drive shafts or smashing up gearboxes , boost will be high thow im not running low 6 or 7 as i got better pistons for that reason
10. miamibluebaby Established Member Joined: May 2009 Ellesmere (Shropshire) Posts: 1044 superchared 106 gti

    #10 28th January 2011, 22:22

    Sorry for a bit of a hijack.. but what about a supercharged engine? would you recomend boost cams or something with more duration due to liniar power trends like ph3s or 708s??
11. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

    #11 28th January 2011, 22:29

    its ok hijack its pritty much same question , cram more air in and map to suit lol
12. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #12 28th January 2011, 22:36

    Really you hsould have picked what your after before you start getting the parts. For example most uprated pattern clutches dont have a hope in hell of holding the toque you can get out of a turbo TU.
    
    If your after reliability perhaps looking at a stronger diff of traction control would be a better option then a cam. Though a wilder cam would normally move the power up the rev range and let you run less boost for a given output. This tend to work out better for diffs and clutches.
13. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #13 28th January 2011, 22:42

    with the kit and turbo your running on high boost you'd probs be better off buying a lsd, your still gonna make very good power, but with just a standard box and shafts on the boost your planning....... youll probs find the boxes failing you pretty quick, im after a diff'd box but monie's are getting tight now lol
14. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

    #14 28th January 2011, 22:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 with the kit and turbo your running on high boost you'd probs be better off buying a lsd, your still gonna make very good power, but with just a standard box and shafts on the boost your planning....... youll probs find the boxes failing you pretty quick, im after a diff'd box but monie's are getting tight now lol

    i got to uprated shafts there in but never thought about the box tbh . and as you say its all down to money now , least my pred will be here soon and then maybee look at that side of things as id also like to go 406 brembo to but all down to money at mo
15. user_36563 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 anywere lol Posts: 253 2001 saxo vts 1993 vw polo

    #15 28th January 2011, 23:11

    standard cams are good for 300bhp so no point changing then really.
16. user_9396 Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 torquay (England) Posts: 1993 supercharged vts. 1.1 saxo. accord type r

    #16 28th January 2011, 23:16

    im running 708s as they seem to be ok when charging,
    have been told that turboing, the 708 inlet is ok but a standard exhaust cam is better,(the turbo catcams inlet is same as 708)
    but as said i would look at a diff if possible, as getting that power down will make the car faster, dont just wanna spin up constantly.
17. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

    #17 28th January 2011, 23:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adzvtr im running 708s as they seem to be ok when charging, have been told that turboing, the 708 inlet is ok but a standard exhaust cam is better,(the turbo catcams inlet is same as 708) but as said i would look at a diff if possible, as getting that power down will make the car faster, dont just wanna spin up constantly.

    thanks m8
18. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

    #18 28th January 2011, 23:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AXracing Really you hsould have picked what your after before you start getting the parts. For example most uprated pattern clutches dont have a hope in hell of holding the toque you can get out of a turbo TU. If your after reliability perhaps looking at a stronger diff of traction control would be a better option then a cam. Though a wilder cam would normally move the power up the rev range and let you run less boost for a given output. This tend to work out better for diffs and clutches.

    thanks for the info thats helped loads