Gearbox Wont Meet Engine !!

1. LScottBell Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 822 Citroen Saxo Vtr 2001

   #1 29th January 2011, 18:18

   Been trying to get the gearbox back onto the saxo.. We have it all fastened but when the 4 bolts are tightened the box is about maybe 8mm from actually meeting against the engine it seems like the 2 top bolts they are tightening but its just not coming together we have trying alsorts but cant get it to come against the block what could be stopping it ?
   
   Cheers
2. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

   #2 29th January 2011, 18:20

   Trapped wires?
   Have you looked all around it?
   Is the clutch on properly?
3. LScottBell Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 822 Citroen Saxo Vtr 2001

   #3 29th January 2011, 18:21

   Yes clutch is bolted on... no wires obstructing
   
   Should the box just slide in ?
4. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

   #4 29th January 2011, 18:22

   Should do yeh, is anything stopping it at the back? Under the battery tray?
5. Railroader Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Bolton Posts: 1068 Saxo 1.4i sx

   #5 29th January 2011, 18:23

   try WD40
6. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

   #6 29th January 2011, 18:23

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Railroader try WD40

   WD40 Rules!
7. user_19702 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2007 Kendal, Cumbria Posts: 2728 White mk1 VTS

   #7 29th January 2011, 18:29

   Its either your clutch isent allined right...orrrr there are little locater pins that arent located right lol
   
   look like this:
   
   http://www.partsforscooters.com/core...a653dc1cf71635
8. Jackman Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2006 Bridgend, South Wales Posts: 11234 iTB 205 Rallye, 205 STDT.

   #8 29th January 2011, 18:31

   Possible that you've got a dowel in the wrong place!
9. user_19702 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2007 Kendal, Cumbria Posts: 2728 White mk1 VTS

   #9 29th January 2011, 18:32

   Dowel locater...same thing lol
10. iSlayeR Established Member Joined: Aug 2009 King's lynn Posts: 2073 Turbocharged vtr

    #10 29th January 2011, 18:35

    what they said ^^ check there isn't 2 dowels, one on the gearbox and the block meeting each other
11. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

    #11 29th January 2011, 18:39

    either dowels or clutch is not aligned properly.
12. user_46039 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Saltash Cornwall Posts: 199 Saxo forte posi blue

    #12 29th January 2011, 18:46

    as said either the dowels or clucth not alligned properly
13. LScottBell Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 822 Citroen Saxo Vtr 2001

    #13 29th January 2011, 18:46

    I alligned using the centring tool and then placed the pressure plate against the friction plate and made sure it was all tightened then pulled the centring tool and looked in between and could see directly through the gap to the flywheel.. I will see about the dowels
14. Ellisg93 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 Leicester Posts: 184 Saxo 1.1 R reg! 1991 Honda Civic (4G)

    #14 29th January 2011, 18:51

    Sounds like the locator dowels.
15. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #15 29th January 2011, 18:52

    Just check around it again, you'll see them.
16. LScottBell Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 822 Citroen Saxo Vtr 2001

    #16 29th January 2011, 19:07

    Were just gonna split the box tomorrow slightly.. Not fully back off the engine and make sure the dowels are seating properly. Hopefully its just that as its a right b**tard of a job to do
17. LScottBell Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 822 Citroen Saxo Vtr 2001

    #17 29th January 2011, 22:34

    When the friction plate is centred and the pressure plate fully tightened can that friction plate even move at all incase it has became shifted in anyway in not allowing the box to slot in ?
    
    And also....
    
    How much can the engine actually angle without putting too much strain on the engines mount ?
    
    Cheers Guys
18. user_19702 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2007 Kendal, Cumbria Posts: 2728 White mk1 VTS

    #18 30th January 2011, 01:03

    if the presure plate is tightened and torqued to the correct newton metres it wil not move, and as for the engine angling, it shouldnt go past 30* degrees, even thats kind of pushing it, common sense really bud, hope this helps