Weird Noise When Starting Saxo? (With Video)

1. -V-T-R- Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Newport Posts: 270

   #1 31st January 2011, 13:19

   Here's a video so show what I'm on about:
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USmFZteYkbc
   
   Does anyone know what this could be?
   It's been stood all over winter so has anything froozen up?
   
   Edit: I've changed the battery and it still sounds the same...starter motor or worse?
2. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #2 31st January 2011, 13:22

   1 your battery is flat and 2 that sound, sounds like the starter motor.
   
   Steve.
3. -V-T-R- Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Newport Posts: 270

   #3 31st January 2011, 13:25

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by stevo67 1 your battery is flat and 2 that sound, sounds like the starter motor. Steve.

   Thanks for reply.
   I took off the battery in the video and replaced it with my dads battery out of his vectra and it still sounded exactly the same
4. user_48908 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2010 shrewsbury Posts: 112 half broken saxo vtr now

   #4 31st January 2011, 13:26

   +1 agree with stevo67.
5. -V-T-R- Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Newport Posts: 270

   #5 31st January 2011, 13:38

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by scrapyardcity +1 agree with stevo67.

   How much are starter motors?
6. LScottBell Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 822 Citroen Saxo Vtr 2001

   #6 31st January 2011, 13:41

   Just buy a second hand one mate.. maybe 10 - 15 quid or so.... brandnew i reckon 50 quid +
   
   Good Luck...
7. -V-T-R- Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Newport Posts: 270

   #7 31st January 2011, 13:41

   P.S - I've read alot of "car wont start" threads, and it states that if you cant bump it, then it's not the starter motor...just tried bumping it and nothing happened so is it something else?
8. SAXO8VYO Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 Devizes Posts: 836 Saxo furio - X312HBK Peugeot 206GTI -J44KBX

   #8 31st January 2011, 14:55

   urmmm my furio has been stood all winter due to having a fucked battery and rad but sorted rad and i went to start mine and it wouldnt turn over just like yours but mine didnt make that weird noise lol sounds like metal crunching/bending but might just be me and +1 take stevo's advice as he seems to give alot of good advice on here bud
9. user_31412 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 ★ West / North Yorkshire ★ Posts: 1653

   #9 31st January 2011, 17:47

   Check the battery voltage first of all, see if it is close to 12.6v. If it is, check resistance from battery -negative to the engine to make sure there is a good earth.
   
   When you say it's been stood over winter... do you mean it's frozen when it was like -10?
   
   Did you try start it when it was frozen with no antifreeze in? If you did the timing may have slipped.
10. -V-T-R- Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Newport Posts: 270

    #10 31st January 2011, 17:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by outrage_uk Check the battery voltage first of all, see if it is close to 12.6v. If it is, check resistance from battery -negative to the engine to make sure there is a good earth. When you say it's been stood over winter... do you mean it's frozen when it was like -10? Did you try start it when it was frozen with no antifreeze in? If you did the timing may have slipped.

    Thanks for the reply.
    I always make sure I put antifreeze in over the winter period and last year was no different. I was driving it a day or so before the snow came and that lasted for a few weeks then once I tried starting it after that the above happened and hasn't changed no matter what I try How will I know if the timing has slipped?
11. user_31412 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 ★ West / North Yorkshire ★ Posts: 1653

    #11 31st January 2011, 18:13

    If you have anti-freeze in and used it since then it probably isn't timing
    
    Go down the lines of checking the earths first of all or remove the starter from the car and see how it turns over on it's own without trying to start the car - may just be warn, dirty or sticking brushes.
    
    To check timing; unplug battery, take top timing cover off, get a mate to turn crack over slowly clockwise (22mm bolt) by hand until you can put the lower flywheel locking pin in (6mm, 1 inch bar or half a drill bit). Then have a look at the cam pulley at the top - if the timing is ok then you should be able to fit a 8mm bar or drill bit through the hole into the cylinder head. If you can, then the timing is ok.
12. toxic Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 772

    #12 31st January 2011, 21:25

    starter motor