cylinder number

6th February 2011, 23:37

am i right in saying that cylinder number 1 is the one closest to the gearbox?

6th February 2011, 23:57

Yep

7th February 2011, 08:40

arr crap. Wish i'd have asked this yesterday. I set the clearences up using number 1 as the one closest to the crank and now it runs like a bag of shit, thats why i asked this lol

7th February 2011, 15:49

Nope, No1 is drivers side.

7th February 2011, 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Railroader

Nope, No1 is drivers side.

No1 is at the gearbox end (passenger), No4 is at cambelt end (drivers)

7th February 2011, 17:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by danny-vts

No1 is at the gearbox end (passenger), No4 is at cambelt end (drivers)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firing_order

7th February 2011, 17:51

ok my bad , i had a look on other forums and basically they were saying 1 is gearbox end.

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7th February 2011, 18:31

That link is telling you mainly about firing orders... totally different thing.

No1 Cylinder is 10000000001% at the transmission end on TU engines.

7th February 2011, 19:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by outrage_uk

That link is telling you mainly about firing orders... totally different thing.

No1 Cylinder is 10000000001% at the transmission end on TU engines.

It mainly tells about firing order but it also says this>

"When referring to engines, the front of the engine is the part where the pulleys for the accessories (such as the alternator and water pump) are, and the rear of the engine is where the flywheel is, through which the engine connects to the transmission. The front of the engine may point towards the front, side or rear of the car."

"On a straight engine the spark plugs (and cylinders) are numbered, starting with #1, usually from the front of the engine to the rear"

No 1 cylinder is at the front of the engine, the pulley end. Always has been and always will.

7th February 2011, 19:36

... ok well TU engines are French and cylinder number 1 is at the transmission end

7th February 2011, 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by outrage_uk

... ok well TU engines are French and cylinder number 1 is at the transmission end

Well prove it instead of shouting

7th February 2011, 19:43

I was talking to a guy at work about this (i'm a mechanic) and he says that on french cars number 1 cylinder is at the gearbox end. I've seen a snap-on technical note (they're on the back of the snap-on leaflets sometimes) at that was mentioning french cars and mentioned number 1 is at the gearbox end. I Looked at my plug leads earlier and found that the smallest plug lead (to the plug closest to the gearbox) was number 1 and the longest plug lead (to the crank end) is plug lead number 4.
Plus 99% of people on here think number one is gearbox side.

Thanks for all the help guys

Just got to wait for the engine to fully cool down now, so getting up at 5:30am to set the clearnences

god my life sucks!

lol

7th February 2011, 19:45

that and the fact that is set the valve clearences using number 1 as the crank side and my car now runs like an absolute pile of crap!

7th February 2011, 20:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by bourney

that and the fact that is set the valve clearences using number 1 as the crank side and my car now runs like an absolute pile of crap!

Ive always set valve clearances using No1 a the pulley end and its been fine.

7th February 2011, 20:08

Ive always worked on these TU engines based on cylinder 1 @ transmission end.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haynes, Page 2A.12, Section 5

It is important that the clearance of each valve is checked and adjusted only when the valve is fully closed, with the rocker cover arm resting on the heel of the cam (directly opposite the peak). This can be ensured by carrying out the adjustments in the following sequence, noting that No 1 cylinder is at the transmission end of the engine. The correct valve clearances are given in the Specifications at the start of this Chapter. The valve locations can be determined from the position of the manifolds.

7th February 2011, 21:23

How odd..

7th February 2011, 21:34

why do the french have to be awkward? must be the only manufacturer to do it backwards.

7th February 2011, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeM

why do the french have to be awkward? must be the only manufacturer to do it backwards.

because they're french. Should of stuck to what they know best.... making bread

18th February 2011, 09:25

call them what numbers you want as long as you know the front valves are out and the back are inlets