1.1

12th February 2011, 12:35

is ther any engine mods i can put on the shit box to give it a bit more go ?

12th February 2011, 12:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by merc2546

is ther any engine mods i can put on the shit box to give it a bit more go ?

Strip the car to 1 seat, decat, 4branch, breather mods and my 1,1 could keep with standard vtr's

12th February 2011, 12:39

4 branch ?

12th February 2011, 12:43

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Originally Posted by ash_hart

Strip the car to 1 seat, decat, 4branch, breather mods and my 1,1 could keep with standard vtr's

not being an e-warrier but there is no chance in hell a 1.1 with those mods would keep up with a decent vtr

12th February 2011, 12:44

i was thinking that but be a good laught if they could

12th February 2011, 12:48

Cheapest option is sell it and buy a bigger engined Saxo.

If you really want to keep that shell you can always do an engine swap. Though it can be quite a lot of work.

Wanting to stay 1.1 then boost such as a turbo or super charger is a good way to make a significant gain in power. Though does cost quite a bit to do well.

Normally aspirated and staying 1.1 you have to start spending a lot to get significant gains. A good cold air induction kit, performance exhaust with manifold and fast road cam would see you a small gain but your still talking a relatively slow car for the money involved.

12th February 2011, 12:51

wat the best cam to get ?

12th February 2011, 12:56

The £££££ ur spending on mods i.e cams etc would be better of buying a R/S engine and running gear.

12th February 2011, 13:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by ash_hart

Strip the car to 1 seat, decat, 4branch, breather mods and my 1,1 could keep with standard vtr's

F LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by -shuggles-

not being an e-warrier but there is no chance in hell a 1.1 with those mods would keep up with a decent vtr

this

Quote:

Originally Posted by merc2546

is ther any engine mods i can put on the shit box to give it a bit more go ?

not really. Maybe a turbo, but the actual cost of doing that means you're better off buying a proper VT

12th February 2011, 13:59

Not worth it. Get a years NCB. What i would do is tidy it up. headlights - taillights - vt kit? and get a decent air filter with an decent exhaust system then leave it at that. If you turbo it you will be chasing power a vtr/s could gain from easy mods

12th February 2011, 14:05

Just enjoy your car man, cam it if you like it's your money at the end of the day.

12th February 2011, 15:35

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Originally Posted by merc2546

i was thinking that but be a good laught if they could

Ask the lads who met up at stoke on trent meet, it was a 1.1 and it kept with a standard vtr.

12th February 2011, 15:44

Leave the car as it s not worth spending money on it.

Steve.

12th February 2011, 16:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by ash_hart

Ask the lads who met up at stoke on trent meet, it was a 1.1 and it kept with a standard vtr.

what condition was the vtr? and did it really give it everything? like going to 60 in 2nd gear?

13th February 2011, 10:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by -shuggles-

what condition was the vtr? and did it really give it everything? like going to 60 in 2nd gear?

Yea the lad who I was racing was nailing his car

13th February 2011, 12:37

Hmmm

Let's say it was the mk1 vtr 90bhp, and with all they mods on your 1.1 it would be running possibly 65-70 bhp.

There's no way you would be near one as the torque figure on the vtr alone is enough to fend you off.

His vtr must be broken lol

13th February 2011, 12:44

To be honest there's loads of things that could be broken or worn to make the VTR slow.

He could rag it all the time, so his compression is low therefore he'll have massive power loss.
He could have faulty sensors, or anything really...

My 1.1 can keep up with a VTR until 3rd gear then they normally leave me for the Llama's

13th February 2011, 12:53

Aint you forgetting the gearing
My mate had a bog standard 1.1 106 mk1 with the 4 speed gearbox
Coming out of a roundabout my old vts couldn't catch him till mid way through 3rd

13th February 2011, 12:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by ash_hart

Strip the car to 1 seat, decat, 4branch, breather mods and my 1,1 could keep with standard vtr's

Quote:

Originally Posted by ash_hart

Ask the lads who met up at stoke on trent meet, it was a 1.1 and it kept with a standard vtr.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ash_hart

Yea the lad who I was racing was nailing his car

You sir are an idiot.

Fitting a manifold to a 1.1 aint going to make much difference, it's not the manifold that's restrictive, it's the engine itself!

13th February 2011, 13:00

Thats quite poor really and to be honest with you i would break my car for spares repairs if i was beat by a 1.1...

13th February 2011, 13:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by ash_hart

Yea the lad who I was racing was nailing his car

I am sorry but unless the vtr was running on half the power or the 1.1 was boosted then there is no way in hell a 1.1 would keep with it.

Was the driver 200 stone?

13th February 2011, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by ash_hart

Ask the lads who met up at stoke on trent meet, it was a 1.1 and it kept with a standard vtr.

Blimey, not the 'lads who met up at stoke on trent meet'
If they witnessed it then it must be true!!

As said already, unless the VTR was fooked or not trying then a 1.1 could not keep up with it

13th February 2011, 14:06

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Originally Posted by devilsadvocate

As said already, unless the VTR was fooked or not trying then a 1.1 could not keep up with it

That's the short of it...

13th February 2011, 15:21

Yep! a 1.1 could be "ragging it" it in 2nd. I'll pull in 4th. Thats the long short of it.

13th February 2011, 15:44

A 1.1 might be quicker than a VTR if you pushed it off a cliff

13th February 2011, 15:47

They arnt meant to be fast iirc.

13th February 2011, 16:03

was the 1.1 CBR?

17th February 2011, 11:02

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Originally Posted by Aly

You sir are an idiot.

Fitting a manifold to a 1.1 aint going to make much difference, it's not the manifold that's restrictive, it's the engine itself!

I fitted a 4-1 and straight through exhaust to my 1.1 along with some sort of induction kit and a remap it should be not bad out of a 1.1. Its never going to beat vtr's but off the line these 1.1's are pretty quick for what they are, let him have his moment and let him think he beat it

17th February 2011, 22:37

Lol, my old 1.1 was nearly as fast as my slightley modded 1.6 vtr. remember my 1.1 was stripped. 1 seat. thats all. with all breather mods done. cept 4 branch. I kept with a 1.6 vtr up the a500. I wouldent lie about it. Obv it wouldent keep with my cammed vtr now cuz that leaves vts's

17th February 2011, 22:45

Sorry but......lol

18th February 2011, 00:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by ash_hart

Lol, my old 1.1 was nearly as fast as my slightley modded 1.6 vtr. remember my 1.1 was stripped. 1 seat. thats all. with all breather mods done. cept 4 branch. I kept with a 1.6 vtr up the a500. I wouldent lie about it. Obv it wouldent keep with my cammed vtr now cuz that leaves vts's

so how much weight was saved? 50kg? you sir are one great big double *facepalm* no wonder saxo owners have such a bad name thinking there car is faster than what it actually is.

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Originally Posted by J222JRA

Sorry but......lol

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