vts wont start, really stumped now HELP!!!!

1. wicked-vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Surrey Posts: 2608 200sx s14a mark 1 vts

   #1 13th February 2011, 14:49

   Hi guys, the vts decided it wouldnt start last night, had to get towed hime by a vtr
   
   Anyway, the fuel pump primes, fuel is getting to the fuel rail.
   I took the coilpack out, fitted 4 spark plugs and earthed it to the engine block, it fired then. Could the insulation on the coilpack be gone? As it wont fire when its in the engine but will when its out of it?
   
   Any other ideas?
   
   James
2. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #2 13th February 2011, 15:16

   If you have a mate with a vts swap the coil pack over,see if it fires.
   
   
   Steve.
3. wicked-vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Surrey Posts: 2608 200sx s14a mark 1 vts

   #3 13th February 2011, 15:26

   Im trying to get my mate to let me use his, but he's being a fanny about it
4. wicked-vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Surrey Posts: 2608 200sx s14a mark 1 vts

   #4 16th February 2011, 20:29

   Ok my mate wouldnt give me the coilpack, so i bought a new one along with 4 new plugs.
   
   Tested it, all 4 plugs firing, its injecting fuel and its getting compression on all 4 cylinders (100psi on 3 and 90psi on one of them) Its all turning over on the starter motor as it should yet it still wont start!
   
   Any ideas guys? Im really stumped now and cant do without a car much longer
5. Junaid Established Member Joined: May 2009 pboro Posts: 1442 Saxo 1.4 furio Now Saxo 1.6 VTR

   #5 16th February 2011, 20:32

   i was going to say battery but if its turning over then its not the battery
6. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

   #6 16th February 2011, 20:50

   is it just turning over and over without starting? spray some brake cleaner into the inlet and see what it does, if it fires up id say something to do with injectors, maybe the crank sensors faulty so the injectors arent getting a signal to fire
7. wicked-vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Surrey Posts: 2608 200sx s14a mark 1 vts

   #7 16th February 2011, 23:22

   After a good think thats What I came up with mate, also picked my mates brains and he said there may be water in the tank so il check that.
   
   Will update the thread tomorrow for those that care lol
8. wicked-vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Surrey Posts: 2608 200sx s14a mark 1 vts

   #8 17th February 2011, 18:28

   Wont fire with easy start either I took out the crank sensor and the lambda and cleaned them, still no luck.
   
   Any ideas anyone? Cant live without the car anymore
9. wicked-vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Surrey Posts: 2608 200sx s14a mark 1 vts

   #9 17th February 2011, 21:33

   Got it going now, problem solved hopefilly!
10. LScottBell Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 822 Citroen Saxo Vtr 2001

    #10 17th February 2011, 22:13

    Bet you have a cheeser on your face aha
    
    How did you manage to get it going?
11. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #11 17th February 2011, 22:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Junaid i was going to say battery but if its turning over then its not the battery

    Everyone says that lol...
12. wicked-vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Surrey Posts: 2608 200sx s14a mark 1 vts

    #12 17th February 2011, 22:20

    Cheeser? lol
    
    Think it must have sucked some crap up from the bottom of the tank, or i flooded it trying to start it. This combined with a coilpack on the way out meant it wasn't starting. I turned the engine over a few times in a effort to clear any gunk out of it, then bump started it. It idled like a bag of shit, had to keep feathering the throttle. Took it out for a long drive to clear out any remaining shit, idles perfectly and starts fine hot and cold
    
    I plan on checking and cleaning a few remaining sensors tomorrow just to make sure there ok anyway
13. wicked-vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Surrey Posts: 2608 200sx s14a mark 1 vts

    #13 26th February 2011, 12:08

    So I guess I didn't sort it, the car ran fine for 2 few days then one day I turned it on and the idle was very low and after a few seconds it cut out. Any idea's What it might be? Otherwise il have to call out a mobile mechanic to do a diagnostic test as I think a sensor is to blame
14. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #14 26th February 2011, 12:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wicked-vtr So I guess I didn't sort it, the car ran fine for 2 few days then one day I turned it on and the idle was very low and after a few seconds it cut out. Any idea's What it might be? Otherwise il have to call out a mobile mechanic to do a diagnostic test as I think a sensor is to blame

    Did you start it again after?
15. wicked-vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Surrey Posts: 2608 200sx s14a mark 1 vts

    #15 26th February 2011, 15:21

    Yeah it ran fine for like a week, then the issue above happened and after that it wouldnt start at all, same symptoms as before
    
    James
16. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #16 26th February 2011, 16:07

    Have you checked the ICV again?
17. wicked-vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Surrey Posts: 2608 200sx s14a mark 1 vts

    #17 26th February 2011, 16:45

    Never did check the icv, ive got it off now but dont know how to "check it", it looks alright by eye
18. RustySkull Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2009 Basildon And Corringham, Essex Posts: 5179 MK1 Focus RS, Discovery TD5, Renault Trafic 2.0

    #18 26th February 2011, 17:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wicked-vtr Never did check the icv, ive got it off now but dont know how to "check it", it looks alright by eye

    Give it a clean, make sure it's lubed, put it back in... WD40 the connector plug also
19. wicked-vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 Surrey Posts: 2608 200sx s14a mark 1 vts

    #19 26th February 2011, 18:29

    Ok will do, il update the thread tomorrow when iv'e done that. Cheers for your help