under arch liners

1. djshongo Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Derry. Ireland Posts: 411 Citroen Saxo VTS 1.6 16v

   #1 15th February 2011, 16:38

   how important are these? front under arch liners
   
   i took mines off few mnths ago and never replaced them. tried to today but theyre a bit of a bitch to get back on, esp when you've lost all the screws
   
   what do they protect and is it a prob if theyre missing?
   
   cheers
2. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #2 15th February 2011, 16:50

   Their meant to stop stones/crap from hammering away at your metal which in turn will lead to rust.Personally I think their a waste of time I took front & rear 1`s off recently to do a job & found corrosion behind them where they`d trapped moisture.So I had to treat the rust & underseal the metal.If you leave them off make sure you undersal the metal & remove the underseal thats peeling off.
   
   Steve.
3. Saxotim Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Leeds Posts: 2865 172 Cup, Mk2 VTR

   #3 15th February 2011, 16:51

   havent had any in my front arches for over 2 years just a lot of road shit/mud/dirt gets up behind the arch and up the leading edge of the door.
   
   can make the door check strap make an awful CRACK but some WD40 solves it in seconds.
4. DundeeUnited Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 Invergowrie Posts: 1006 Saxo VTR

   #4 15th February 2011, 16:56

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Saxotim havent had any in my front arches for over 2 years just a lot of road shit/mud/dirt gets up behind the arch and up the leading edge of the door. can make the door check strap make an awful CRACK but some WD40 solves it in seconds.

   +1 mate my passenger door cracks all the time cuz of grit and gunk from the road, should i just wd40 the hinges?
5. djshongo Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Derry. Ireland Posts: 411 Citroen Saxo VTS 1.6 16v

   #5 15th February 2011, 16:58

   cheers for the info
6. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #6 15th February 2011, 18:43

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by DundeeUnited +1 mate my passenger door cracks all the time cuz of grit and gunk from the road, should i just wd40 the hinges?

   Sorry to hijack the thread your best off using spray grease as wd40 dries out.
   
   
   Steve.
7. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

   #7 15th February 2011, 18:45

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by DundeeUnited +1 mate my passenger door cracks all the time cuz of grit and gunk from the road, should i just wd40 the hinges?

   jetwash stuck down the gap to get all the mud and crap off first
8. nicole_ Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Posts: 6713 VTS & EK9

   #8 15th February 2011, 18:46

   defo not a waste of time
   my 10 year old westie had them on and we removed them few months back and the car is spotless in the arches, no rust whatsoever, its so so clean
   compared to my 10 year old vtr that had no arches that had to have a lot of welding as the boot floor was practically hanging off
9. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

   #9 15th February 2011, 18:50

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by nicole_ defo not a waste of time my 10 year old westie had them on and we removed them few months back and the car is spotless in the arches, no rust whatsoever, its so so clean compared to my 10 year old vtr that had no arches that had to have a lot of welding as the boot floor was practically hanging off

   mine just accumulates a load of crap. also makes it alot easier to get the bumper off (4 bolts!)
10. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #10 15th February 2011, 18:50

    Thats why I said if you do remove the liners then make sure the arches are treated properly with underseal so you don`t leave exposed metal.
    
    Steve.
11. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #11 15th February 2011, 18:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nicole_ defo not a waste of time my 10 year old westie had them on and we removed them few months back and the car is spotless in the arches, no rust whatsoever, its so so clean compared to my 10 year old vtr that had no arches that had to have a lot of welding as the boot floor was practically hanging off

    Agreed, imo there quite important, they dont really trap moisture they protect the inner wings. Saw a 106 completly fooked last week because the arch liners had been removed for so long, stones chip away at the underseal and paint allowing rust to grow. can also get to the chassis legs. Not so bad if you re-seal all of the metal if you remove them but still there quite important
12. Saxotim Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Leeds Posts: 2865 172 Cup, Mk2 VTR

    #12 15th February 2011, 18:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DundeeUnited +1 mate my passenger door cracks all the time cuz of grit and gunk from the road, should i just wd40 the hinges?

    yep or spray grease as said below.
    
    do the hinges and the check strap and a bit in the hole where the check strap enters the door, just squirt all the crap off with the door fully open then swing it closed then opena couple of times jobs a goodun.
13. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #13 15th February 2011, 18:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Saxotim yep or spray grease as said below. do the hinges and the check strap and a bit in the hole where the check strap enters the door, just squirt all the crap off with the door fully open then swing it closed then opena couple of times jobs a goodun.

    gotta be jetwash the gap, then grease it. wouldn't want a mix of mud and grease
14. djshongo Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Derry. Ireland Posts: 411 Citroen Saxo VTS 1.6 16v

    #14 15th February 2011, 21:30

    might actually put them back on 2moro then guys!
    
    dont want the arches fallin off, cause I must say when i removed them, it was spotless underneath, so they must have been working!
15. Frazer Newbie Joined: Feb 2011 Armagh Posts: 8 Nissan 200sx s13, peugeot 106, saxo vts, rover

    #15 16th February 2011, 13:28

    My cousin lost the one of this 106 and the inner edge of the door where the hinges are gets covered in dirt, looks pretty rough when you open the door lol. But I donated him one from a car i was breaking so all is good lol.
    
    P.S. I recognise that pic 'djshongo', are you on jon44?.
16. user_44502 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2010 Posts: 6234

    #16 16th February 2011, 13:50

    very fucking important!!! i have just 1 missing on front passenger side and theres rust under the fuse box now!
    GRRRRRR!
17. wezzasaxo1 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2010 aylesbury Posts: 385 cammed vtr 16v sold now mk4 astra gsi turbo

    #17 22nd February 2011, 20:20

    it will also start messing with ur electrics u could damage them!!!
18. djshongo Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Derry. Ireland Posts: 411 Citroen Saxo VTS 1.6 16v

    #18 22nd February 2011, 21:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Frazer My cousin lost the one of this 106 and the inner edge of the door where the hinges are gets covered in dirt, looks pretty rough when you open the door lol. But I donated him one from a car i was breaking so all is good lol. P.S. I recognise that pic 'djshongo', are you on jon44?.

    yep i am!
    
    wat u driving?