Fitting a mk1 manifold to a mk2 with a saxsport help!!

1. -scott- Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Devizes Posts: 170 1999 Vts

   #1 15th February 2011, 16:56

   I have a mk2 VTR with the cat in the manifold and i have a saxsport race system. I want to take the cat out so will a mk1 manifold fit the mk2 without moving the oil filter?
   
   And will it make the saxsport pop and rasp with the mk1 manifold?
   
   Thanks
   
   Scott
2. SAXO8VYO Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2010 Devizes Posts: 836 Saxo furio - X312HBK Peugeot 206GTI -J44KBX

   #2 15th February 2011, 17:00

   yeah it will work scott you will need to get a mk1 mani and mk1 down pipe , my car is a 2000 reg so is a crossover year so my cat was under the car but i have a mk1 mani and downpipe , yeah it will pop and be raspy but will be alot louder with a 421
3. user_9396 Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 torquay (England) Posts: 1993 supercharged vts. 1.1 saxo. accord type r

   #3 15th February 2011, 17:07

   no it wont work, you have the filter cartidge type which is relocated higher up on the right hand side of the engine ye??
   you can convert to the screw in filter for a couple of quid tho and job done.
   the cross over with cat under car uses the screw on type oil filter so is fine.
4. -scott- Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Devizes Posts: 170 1999 Vts

   #4 15th February 2011, 17:10

   Mine is a 2003 though with the cat in the manifold though. With the plastic oil filter.
5. -scott- Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Devizes Posts: 170 1999 Vts

   #5 15th February 2011, 17:11

   i read on here that if you heat wrap the mk1 manifold it just fits on. Anyone know if that is true?
6. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

   #6 15th February 2011, 17:17

   nope, isn't enough room as the design on the mk2 is different to allow for the filter. and what about the dipstick?
7. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

   #7 15th February 2011, 17:23

   standard mk1 manifold should be fine, the problems are with some 4-2-1's which are bigger than the standard items, but a mk1 manifold is thinner than the mk2
8. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #8 15th February 2011, 17:25

   Scott basically you have 2 options mate either spend out and get a Piper or Supersprint Manifold which will fit right one no oil filter relocation needed but they cost near £300
   
   OR
   
   do the oil filter relocation and get something like a raceland by the time you get all the bits and done it will be under £150
   
   choice is yours
9. user_36879 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2009 Ascot Posts: 4619 Mint 106 rallye, Saxo VTR

   #9 15th February 2011, 17:26

   to have a mk1 mani on a mk2 you will have to change the oil filter to a mk1 mate and yes it will be popyy and raspy
10. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #10 15th February 2011, 17:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush Scott basically you have 2 options mate either spend out and get a Piper or Supersprint Manifold which will fit right one no oil filter relocation needed but they cost near £300 OR do the oil filter relocation and get something like a raceland by the time you get all the bits and done it will be under £150 choice is yours

    you sure the standard mk1 manifold and downpipe wont fit without messing with the filter?
11. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #11 15th February 2011, 17:37

    100% will not fit you get close but not close enough it fouls the actual plastice thing on the mk2 s
12. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #12 15th February 2011, 17:40

    fair enough, i thought it would because the downpipe is much thinner than the cat on a mk2
13. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #13 15th February 2011, 17:44

    nah Lee it's basically the top bit of the manifold the way it is angled swings the downpipe over onto the plastic bit of the filter
14. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #14 15th February 2011, 17:48

    good stuff. raceland and a new oil filter gets my vote then
15. bushy90 Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Kent Posts: 602 R53 MCS

    #15 15th February 2011, 17:53

    Why not buy a raceland 4-1? I thought they cleared the oil filter?
16. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #16 15th February 2011, 18:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush Scott basically you have 2 options mate either spend out and get a Piper or Supersprint Manifold which will fit right one no oil filter relocation needed but they cost near £300 OR do the oil filter relocation and get something like a raceland by the time you get all the bits and done it will be under £150 choice is yours

    or option 3 - get a raceland that will fit
17. ryza Frequent Poster Joined: May 2010 ipswich Posts: 961 track saxo Daily beemer

    #17 15th February 2011, 18:05

    hello everyone, i have a bit of a problem. i've fitted a mk1 manifold and done the oil filter conversion and my manifold seems too short 4 some reason? the downpipe hits the bottom of the sump, i've managed 2 fit it but is touching the sump alot, it's really tight, anyone know why this is? maybe a 1.1 manifold?
18. -scott- Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Devizes Posts: 170 1999 Vts

    #18 15th February 2011, 18:14

    anyone tried one of these?
    
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CITROEN-SAXO-2...item4cf4ec3188
19. wolf_gsxr Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 wigan Posts: 778

    #19 15th February 2011, 20:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by -scott- anyone tried one of these? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CITROEN-SAXO-2...item4cf4ec3188

    waste of mild steel... they fit shite and for that money you can get a raceland which is stainless
20. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

    #20 16th February 2011, 10:45

    id get the supersprint, its 300 quid but you dont need to move the oil filter and its a much better quality and more bhp.