cutting out when dipping clutch

1. user_35014 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Helensburgh Posts: 1206 Cammed Ph2 VTS

   #1 21st February 2011, 21:12

   ok, ive been looking into what can cause the car to cut out at junctions, and i cant work out if its the ICV or the coilpack.
   
   Ive had the ICV off and its sweaky clean, as is the throttlebody. I have no EML on - is there a way to work out whats up with it? Ir do i have to throw money and sensors at it until its sorted?
   
   Its never either when its cold or hot, its intermittent if im honest.
2. user_37545 Established Member Joined: Sep 2009 Southampton, UK Posts: 1908 Po-Low.

   #2 21st February 2011, 21:48

   I swapped my sparkies the other week, sorted my problem.
   
   Not sure if it was because i played with the coil pack or if it was the plugs but it did good as i havent stalled since.
   
   get the most expensive ones at halfords, they are pretty damn good
3. MJ05LLY Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Doncaster Posts: 1616 Audi TTS

   #3 21st February 2011, 21:55

   Could it be to do with your car being cammed but not mapped?
4. VTHall Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2010 Telford Posts: 4501 Black corsa c SXI.

   #4 21st February 2011, 23:24

   tps???
5. user_35014 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Helensburgh Posts: 1206 Cammed Ph2 VTS

   #5 22nd February 2011, 08:19

   Nah it still idles ok to be honest even without the remap.
   
   Im thinking its something to do with the battery as my stereo and clock reset yesterday when it was happening the most. Going to go out and remove, clean and reconnect the battery terminals.
   
   Its not done it this morning when i drove in :s
6. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

   #6 22nd February 2011, 08:42

   So dose it only happen as you come back down to ilde, like as you drop the revs they dnt stop and just cut out? And sometimes drop low and then kick up again?
7. user_35014 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Helensburgh Posts: 1206 Cammed Ph2 VTS

   #7 22nd February 2011, 09:01

   Yeah exactly. It did it every time i dipped the clutch on the way home last night.
   
   This morning it didnt do it at all and settled nicely.
8. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

   #8 22nd February 2011, 09:19

   Hmm it can be something to do with the cams, as icv really not great ones the engine is cammed as such.
   
   Dnt think it will be the coil pack, and not the tos as that other guy said. It really sound like it because it cammed as such as my engine when I just had cams in and unmapped, it used to be like that some times ok others cutting out. But icv really dnt help, my ilde with bodies is soo much better.
9. user_35014 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Helensburgh Posts: 1206 Cammed Ph2 VTS

   #9 24th February 2011, 10:21

   Im thinking that when its been up to high revs, perhaps the ICV is sticking. I came out of the supermarket today on the way to work and span the wheels in the wet accidentally, going up to almost the limiter.
   
   As soon as i did this it cut out every single time i dropped the clutch, and the revs fall really fast.
   
   When i pulled up to the gate to get into work it cut out. I started it off the key, and then it idled fine.
   
   
   The times when it hasnt done it was my usual sub 3k revs bimble.
   
   The plot thickens.
10. user_10418 Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..

    #10 25th February 2011, 01:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pjw Im thinking that when its been up to high revs, perhaps the ICV is sticking. I came out of the supermarket today on the way to work and span the wheels in the wet accidentally, going up to almost the limiter. As soon as i did this it cut out every single time i dropped the clutch, and the revs fall really fast. When i pulled up to the gate to get into work it cut out. I started it off the key, and then it idled fine. The times when it hasnt done it was my usual sub 3k revs bimble. The plot thickens.

    Realy does sound like your setting are out mate somewhere!! had this with other vts "s ive had....
11. vtr-barn L-plater Joined: May 2010 Posts: 76 Saxo VTR

    #11 26th February 2011, 09:59

    Mine done this it was the throttle potentiometer
12. user_35014 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Helensburgh Posts: 1206 Cammed Ph2 VTS

    #12 28th February 2011, 21:11

    Yours cut out after it had been ragged? New position sensor on the way, might help.
    
    It is only after its been past 6krpm.
13. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

    #13 28th February 2011, 21:28

    Mate really, dnt need all these sensor as it cammed without correction to the map, so some thing are out due to cams so the ecu is not correcting correctly all the time might did it on standard ecu with ph3 cams.
    
    Get it mapped will help.
14. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

    #14 28th February 2011, 22:44

    fuel pump?
15. user_35014 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Helensburgh Posts: 1206 Cammed Ph2 VTS

    #15 28th February 2011, 22:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AndySAXO Mate really, dnt need all these sensor as it cammed without correction to the map, so some thing are out due to cams so the ecu is not correcting correctly all the time might did it on standard ecu with ph3 cams. Get it mapped will help.

    Its not just the cams though. Id idles like a sack of shit at times, then others its ok. Sometimes its rough on startup, its off and on. If it was the map surely it would be constant..
16. vtr_chris90 Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 nuneaton Posts: 1796 LY R26

    #16 1st March 2011, 07:17

    It wouldn't be constant if it was map, a friends map sensor went at the weekend, we ha diagnostics on and pointed to that, I actually thought it was lambda at first since it sounded like a subaru lol
    
    I think in all honesty diagnostics should be the first thing, even if the light isn't on the Ecu can still store fault codes etc. So for the £40 quid you will know whats right and wrong, rather than spend slot of time effort and money going on a sensor change mission, because it could something as simple as the engine temp sensor, or it could be icv
    
    Also you should really get diagnostics done and this problem sorted before you go for a remap cause 8/10 id say the mapper will just map over the fault and it will still be stored on the ecu, and the issue still hidden there. I know others will disagree but I seen it this weekend, a mate had a lot of fault codes and couple of running issues with a cammed 16v and he had a remap an it ran worse than a non mapped engine, with the faults still there
    
    Like I said diagnostics is your best option here rather than ponder over it for ages and replace all the sensors mentioned on here and to then find it could be something very simple, it may cost £40 and upwards on diagnostics as they will charge an hourly rate even if they spend 15mins on the car, but it's better than spending £150 on sensors and still have the problem
17. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

    #17 1st March 2011, 07:48

    No, as at the moment the ecu is having to do alot of correction as to the ecu the engine I'd not right so it dosent know what to correct to try get the best for the engine as such.
    
    Mine was like this would be fine and ilde and drive well, then some times coming back to ilde and some times it would just cut out and others would drop the rev really low then save itself and ilde again.
    
    You need to remember, that the ecu map is not set for that cans you have so, the furling it not going to be right.
18. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

    #18 1st March 2011, 07:49

    Yer could be a fualt, but I am saying it more to do with the cams.
19. user_35014 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Helensburgh Posts: 1206 Cammed Ph2 VTS

    #19 1st March 2011, 08:02

    Appreciate the info guys, thanks. Ive got an OBD2 cable - think ill give it a go. I never bothered as the EML wasnt lit.
20. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

    #20 1st March 2011, 08:25

    Yer Saxo system not great can still have faults and no light.
21. user_35090 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty

    #21 1st March 2011, 21:06

    this happens with my vtr, i have a wild cam fitted, and once ive blasted up to 5k the car idles like shit. dipping below normal idle revs, and cuts out in bad places, including bogging down when i try to make a run onto roundabouts. alot of close calls i can tell ya. id put my money on the cams timing if honest