vtr or vts?

1. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

   #1 28th February 2011, 13:52

   Im looking to buy another saxo either vtr or vts... both that im looking at are 2003 models.
   
   VTS - has 50,000 on the clock lots of paperwork coming in at 2,000 with a full years mot tax intill july and also there going to do a full service!
   
   VTR - has 35,000 on the clock coming in at 1,8000 full years mot and some tax left.
   
   
   How much quicker is a VTS compared to a VTR ( never drove a VTR ).
   
   
   Thanks
2. Craig_B Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2009 Pontypool, S.Wales Posts: 3640 RenaultSport Clio 197 + Ph1 172

   #2 28th February 2011, 13:56

   First things first, How old are you?
   
   Insurance at a young age on a VTS is silly money being insurance group 14, when a VTR is group insurance 7
   
   
3. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

   #3 28th February 2011, 14:00

   Im 21 nearly 22 in like a month insurance isnt a problem.
   
   Another thing that puts me off is when buying either a VTS or a VTR 8/10 they have been thrashed around lol
4. Saxotim Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Leeds Posts: 2865 172 Cup, Mk2 VTR

   #4 28th February 2011, 14:00

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Craig_B First things first, How old are you? Insurance at a young age on a VTS is silly money being insurance group 14, when a VTR is group insurance 7

   Insurance groups have changed to a 1-50 scale
   
   VTS is group 27
   VTR is group 14
5. Craig_B Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2009 Pontypool, S.Wales Posts: 3640 RenaultSport Clio 197 + Ph1 172

   #5 28th February 2011, 14:02

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Saxotim Insurance groups have changed to a 1-50 scale VTS is group 27 VTR is group 14

   heard something about a change, wasnt sure when it was kicking in though
   
   Cheers
6. Saxotim Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Leeds Posts: 2865 172 Cup, Mk2 VTR

   #6 28th February 2011, 14:04

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Craig_B heard something about a change, wasnt sure when it was kicking in though Cheers

   No worries, kicked in beginning of the year i think
7. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

   #7 28th February 2011, 14:11

   Yeah insurance i got sorted... What about which one i should go for and what differences in power there is i know the vtr has 98 bhp and the vts has 120 bhp but how much quicker is the vts and how much more quicker does it feel lol
8. Lewis Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2009 Middlesbrough/Coventry Posts: 3808 Megane 225

   #8 28th February 2011, 14:15

   VTS every time. The benefits the VTR gives you is cheaper running costs
9. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

   #9 28th February 2011, 14:17

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Lewis VTS every time. The benefits the VTR gives you is cheaper running costs

   Is a VTR alot more cheaper to run than a VTS petrol wise?
10. lukasvts Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 wakefield Posts: 152 Peugeot 106 GTI

    #10 28th February 2011, 14:28

    ^^ a tenner in a vtr gets you about 80 miles, in a vts about 60 if thats any help mate.
11. mattevts Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 bury st edmunds Posts: 572 saxo vts 147.1bhp

    #11 28th February 2011, 14:42

    VTS all the way
12. Oxas16V Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2005 Frankfurt-Germany Posts: 203 Saxo VTS 1.6 16V

    #12 28th February 2011, 14:43

    If you want a fast car, take the VTS its like a 150 or 160BHP VTEC!
13. mattevts Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 bury st edmunds Posts: 572 saxo vts 147.1bhp

    #13 28th February 2011, 14:46

    it looks like he knows what a VTS is like as he's owned one before, he just wants to compare the 2 as he aint drove a VTR before!
14. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #14 28th February 2011, 15:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ChAdS Is a VTR alot more cheaper to run than a VTS petrol wise?

    not really. I still get 45mpg out of my S even with a short ratio box. But there is the temptation to rag it around more in a VTS so fuel consumption does take a knock.
15. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #15 28th February 2011, 15:10

    id get the vts, no hesitation
16. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

    #16 28th February 2011, 15:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Oxas16V If you want a fast car, take the VTS its like a 150 or 160BHP VTEC!

    i dont think so mate....
17. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

    #17 28th February 2011, 15:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mattevts it looks like he knows what a VTS is like as he's owned one before, he just wants to compare the 2 as he aint drove a VTR before!

    ^^^^^^
18. kyle4256 Established Member Joined: Feb 2008 dundee Posts: 1844 saxo vts

    #18 28th February 2011, 15:38

    get a vtr and put the vts engine it it
19. user_30040 Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Bridlington Posts: 1496 Audi A3

    #19 28th February 2011, 15:44

    All depends on the money mate!, If you can afford a VTS get it , I also saw somewhere on here that VTS is 10 seconds faster then VTR 0-100
20. user_18250 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Swadlincote Posts: 1185 2003 Black VTR

    #20 28th February 2011, 15:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tally2425 All depends on the money mate!, If you can afford a VTS get it , I also saw somewhere on here that VTS is 10 seconds faster then VTR 0-100

    Really? My VTR used to keep up with my mates S upto 100 granted his was a ragged high mileage S and mine was a low mileage looked after R,
    
    VTS undoubtedly alot quicker but dunno about 10 seconds less to 100?
21. user_30040 Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Bridlington Posts: 1496 Audi A3

    #21 28th February 2011, 15:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SteveWC Really? My VTR used to keep up with my mates S upto 100 granted his was a ragged high mileage S and mine was a low mileage looked after R, VTS undoubtedly alot quicker but dunno about 10 seconds less to 100?

    Thats what i heard mate, I wouldnt have thought so myself!
22. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

    #22 28th February 2011, 16:14

    Im going to wait abit see what members on here have forsale as i cant get on it right now have to have 100 posts and been a member for so long!
23. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

    #23 1st March 2011, 00:26

    how would a VTR compare to a corsa GSi as that was my last car before the VTS....
    
    If its anything like the GSi i would be happy with a vtr
24. LWS_71 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Kent Posts: 752 A written off mini

    #24 1st March 2011, 00:48

    Get the S mate, you won't regret it and more potential. R's are for old people! lol!
25. ChAdS Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1385

    #25 1st March 2011, 00:51

    Hmmm.... Im going to have another day or 2 to decide..
    
    That VTS does seem abit pricey though at 2,000 suppose its got 51,000 on the clock though which is a good thing... seems to have alot of history with it but as i was saying earlier 8/10 a vts has been ragged ALWAYS risking buying one id say!
26. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #26 1st March 2011, 08:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SteveWC Really? My VTR used to keep up with my mates S upto 100 granted his was a ragged high mileage S and mine was a low mileage looked after R, VTS undoubtedly alot quicker but dunno about 10 seconds less to 100?

    his vts must have been very broken. my 's was loads quicker than my 'r, and that was quicker than most of my friends vtr's
27. user_36815 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 shrewsbury Posts: 389 mk 2 vtr & vts

    #27 1st March 2011, 08:49

    I own a vtr and vts, theres no comparison, id opt for the vts any day.
28. 5trudd3rs Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Milton Keynes Posts: 217 Saxo VTR MK2

    #28 1st March 2011, 09:47

    I've got a VTR but if i had the choice and could afford insurance i would definatly pick VTS. The VTR is still a good car but as JONAS said there is no comparison. If the VTS is in good condition try haggling to 1700 or so?
29. mattevts Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 bury st edmunds Posts: 572 saxo vts 147.1bhp

    #29 1st March 2011, 14:12

    i've got a cammed mk1 VTS in posi blue that i might be selling if your interested, its a T reg and only done 69,000 miles.
30. Oxas16V Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2005 Frankfurt-Germany Posts: 203 Saxo VTS 1.6 16V

    #30 1st March 2011, 14:24

    Originally Posted by Oxas16V
    
    If you want a fast car, take the VTS its like a 150 or 160BHP VTEC!
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ChAdS i dont think so mate....

    
    Could even be faster! Until 100 mph!
    
    I raced many!
31. mannion L-plater Joined: Nov 2010 hinckley Posts: 72 mk2 vtr

    #31 1st March 2011, 15:54

    definitely go for the VTS, I have a mk2 vtr, granted it's on 121k miles and the engines shot, it's very slow compared, why not take both out for a test drive and then decide or get them both checked out?
32. user_35090 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 west mids (dudley) Posts: 1201 cammed 106 flatty

    #32 1st March 2011, 20:53

    ive got a vtr, they aint slow but the vts is quicker. Theirs always more potential for performance with a vts because its twin cam, i cammed my vtr, to around 120bhp, if id spent an extra 200 - 300 quid with a vts id of had maybe a 140-160bhp car, which is a tad faster vts all the way mate, otherwise you will end up forking nearly 2 grand on a turbo kit like i am
33. sam_colbear Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 456

    #33 2nd March 2011, 07:41

    I've got an s but tax is bloody expensive 240 for a year! Maybe another factor to consider?!