Chances of a 1.1 box?

1. Oc2 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Nottm. Posts: 924 Focus ST2 ASBO

   #1 3rd March 2011, 00:18

   basically i posted a few days ago about the car seeming stangled after 4k RPM
   
   ive just been looking at the lets talk torque graph thats ALWAYS brought up whenever anyone mentions speeds and gears...
   
   and it got me thinking, i can normally only get about 120 when im in 5th... the graph shows a VTR box should be able to hit 145?
   
   Accelerating wise its a damn rocket, but top end is reeeally lacking
   
   Finger pointing to a 1.1 box in its life?
2. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

   #2 3rd March 2011, 00:23

   if it had a 1.1 box on it mate you would hit the limiter in 5th.
3. LScottBell Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 822 Citroen Saxo Vtr 2001

   #3 3rd March 2011, 00:43

   Yes 145 it could reach but you need more power for it to get thier the vtr lump isnt enough to get it to that speed.. if it had a 1.1 box on you wouldnt see above 110 mate it hits the limiter quicker
4. Abass123 Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Thamesmead , London Posts: 920 Saxo Furio

   #4 3rd March 2011, 00:47

   i have a 1.1 box in mine seriously dont buy 1 will be the worse thing youve ever done
5. Oc2 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Nottm. Posts: 924 Focus ST2 ASBO

   #5 3rd March 2011, 00:53

   Ahh cheers fellas
6. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

   #6 3rd March 2011, 01:16

   i have a 1.1 box on my 8v.. best mod i've done! better acceleration, change at 5500, drops to 4500..
   
   Does 100mph in 4th @6500rpm
   
   125mph in 5th @6300rpm.. not hit limiter as its hardcut limiter, so backed off before 6500!
7. iluminusbutterfly Established Member Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 1461

   #7 3rd March 2011, 02:02

   one of the best mods i ever did on my 106, ratio's were much better for the backroads near me
8. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

   #8 3rd March 2011, 08:52

   nope, thats about right, the box is capable of 145 but the engine can't get over the resistance. a vts would push it closer, then upping the rev limit. for example, my 1.1 topped out at just over 100 (after 20 years) but the 1.1 box on my vtr will hit 116 before it starts bogging down
9. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

   #9 3rd March 2011, 16:50

   i have a 1.3 s2 box on mine with a vtr final drive and its amazing but i i wouldnt go for a smaller box than a 1.3 as mine is revvy.
10. Kyza Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 1016

    #10 3rd March 2011, 18:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bedford126 i have a 1.3 s2 box on mine with a vtr final drive and its amazing but i i wouldnt go for a smaller box than a 1.3 as mine is revvy.

    You mean an S1 1.3 Rallye box? With a VTR final drive it would make it a VTR gearbox as the VTR uses the same gear cluster ratio's as the S1 Rallye 1.3 gear box.
11. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

    #11 3rd March 2011, 19:08

    i have something confused there then. as i got the rallye box and had it rebuilt with al new bearings but they changed a gear as one was shafted.
12. Kyza Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 1016

    #12 3rd March 2011, 19:12

    Some of the gears are not interchangable with other sports cluster gearboxes however they do have the same teeth. A wierd one. May remain a mystery!
13. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

    #13 3rd March 2011, 19:14

    i have the receipt somewhere and its all on there he may have told me what you just said and i got it confused.